ASUS Touchpad Not Working

Mike McCall

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I have an ASUS ROC GL752VW gaming laptop in because the touchpad & USB mouse refuse to work. Flash drives are seen & usable, USB mouse is seen but fails to work - no light. Apparently a common problem according to search results. Most say the same thing: Uninstall the Smart Gesture drivers, update the ATK Package, reinstall the Smart Gesture drivers, and that should fix the problem. It doesn't. Boot to a live Linux CD and the touchpad works fine, so not a hardware issue. Back to Windows and it doesn't work again. Not sure what to do next. My searches tell the same story, but their solutions don't seem to have any effect. Interestingly, pressing fn + f9 shows the touchpad being turned off & on, but it doesn't work either way. No, it doesn't work in safe mode either. I'd be pulling on handfuls of hair, but I don't have any. Thoughts, suggestions?
 
I've had this on two previous occasions - on an ASUS laptop with Win 7 and an HP laptop with Win 10 Pro .
Short of an N & P, This is what I did to resolve both issues on both computers.
Go into Device Manager and start from the top. Start removing all the devices one at a time.
Don't delete the software, just remove the device.
Keep going until you get to the bottom of the installed devices list.
Reboot and let it reinstall everything.
Do not use the computer or touch the touchpad or mouse until the devices are installed or you are asked to reboot.
If after reboot it is still installing devices just leave it alone to finish.
Reboot again if needed. Worked for me both times.
Hope this helps.
 
I used a live Ubuntu CD to test it in Linux. It seemed to work fine. Perhaps UBCD doesn't have the correct drivers?

I'v attempted to uninstall the devices as @Barcelona suggested, but it hangs on several devices and never does uninstall them. I'm then unable to stop the process via task manager and end up rebooting the machine. There's lots of talk about this on various forums with several suggesting that uninstalling Mouse Gestures, updating ATK, then updating Mouse Gestures resolves the issue. Done that numerous times to no avail. Elsewhere it was suggested that I search the registry for any mouse lower filters and delete them.

That will be my next step, but I'm out of ideas beyond that. I don't want to hand it back to the guy unrepaired and stumped. The only thing left is a N&P.
 
Boot to a live Linux CD and the touchpad works fine, so not a hardware issue.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. ALWAYS test in Windows because you want to run Windows. Linux may just be using some weird generic driver from the 1990's that just happens to work because it doesn't invoke the device correctly. I would pick up a copy of Gandalf's Windows 10 PE. It's a live Windows 10 environment with built in diagnostic tools:

http://windowsmatters.com/2016/11/10/gandalfs-win10pe-x64-redstone-build-14393-version-10-24-2016/
 
Running out of options it seems. Hate doing that without knowing precisely what the problem is and that there's no better option. Doing it because I'm unable to figure it out and that's my best shot at fixing it makes me feel like I'm just not trying hard enough. But then, I have about 24-hours invested in this since Thursday evening when he brought it in.
 
Running out of options it seems. Hate doing that without knowing precisely what the problem is and that there's no better option. Doing it because I'm unable to figure it out and that's my best shot at fixing it makes me feel like I'm just not trying hard enough. But then, I have about 24-hours invested in this since Thursday evening when he brought it in.

It amazes me how much people try to avoid a nuke n' pave. My goal is to spend as little time as possible in front of the computer so I can maximize profits. I average about $100 to $150/hour, so for me to work on something for 24 hours would cost between $2,400 and $3,200. Or I can just nuke n' pave for a few hundred. Or I can just waste all my time and eat it.

Now if it's a simple problem, then sure, I'll fix it. But problems these days (ESPECIALLY boot problems with Windows 10), just makes fixing the software issue unrealistic.

It reminds me of the recent brake problem I had. One of my brake lines broke. There's a LOT of rust on the bottom of my car (it's old). My mechanic wanted to just patch up the brake line for $400. I said no, I want you to replace ALL the brake lines with the OEM kit. Ended up being a couple hundred more, but it was worth it because I know I won't have any brake line problems now for as long as I own the car. A nuke n' pave is the exact same scenario, only imagine that replacing ALL the brake lines was cheaper AND faster AND easier. Who the heck wouldn't want that?
 
Nuke and pave is the last resort....it is rarely done in our shop, unless requested. As Diggs mentioned above end users want the solution to their problem not all the extra work involved even if they knew how and had the programs to reload.
 
N & P is the techs easy way out and almost always disagreeable to the end user who has no idea where/how to install all their apps and programs.

Nuke and pave is the last resort....it is rarely done in our shop, unless requested. As Diggs mentioned above end users want the solution to their problem not all the extra work involved even if they knew how and had the programs to reload.

I don't know what world you live in, but it's not 1995 anymore. 90% of people only install two things - their printer and Office. They don't even install a decent web browser (I do that for them). Most stuff is web based these days.

Now that being said, I know there are some businesses with specialized software. I don't do this with business clients like this. But residential users? So long as you back up their printer driver and reinstall Office, a nuke n' pave is usually the best solution. It's cheaper, faster, and kills 2,000,000 birds with one stone. Throw an SSD in there while you're at it and you're like the computer god. With a residential client like this, if I can't identify the software problem in 10 minutes or less, then it's not worth my time or my client's dime to do so. I can reimage and backup and restore a client's computer in about 30 minutes most of the time. It takes longer if they have a lot of data obviously, but most clients have 10GB of data or less.
 
I don't know what world you live in, but it's not 1995 anymore. 90% of people only install two things - their printer and Office. They don't even install a decent web browser (I do that for them). Most stuff is web based these days.

Now that being said, I know there are some businesses with specialized software. I don't do this with business clients like this. But residential users? So long as you back up their printer driver and reinstall Office, a nuke n' pave is usually the best solution. It's cheaper, faster, and kills 2,000,000 birds with one stone. Throw an SSD in there while you're at it and you're like the computer god. With a residential client like this, if I can't identify the software problem in 10 minutes or less, then it's not worth my time or my client's dime to do so. I can reimage and backup and restore a client's computer in about 30 minutes most of the time. It takes longer if they have a lot of data obviously, but most clients have 10GB of data or less.

Now that's funny.... you must have trained your people to accept anything you say. That's great if you can get away with it. In my business it not about whats best or easier for me or my techs, its about properly and expertly servicing our clients. If it takes a bit more time so be it. The 10 minutes rule you have is a joke I'm assuming. You would never make it in our area... you would be one of those stores that we see come and go all the time. Must be nice only having 90% of your clients with two programs... Most of our business clients have many programs including custom programing and our residential clients have many more. 1995 LOL
 
Spoken like a millennial.

Spoken like a pizza tech.

FIFY.

You're the one that's behind the times here, not me. There's a reason why Microsoft integrated a refresh this PC option in Windows. In the near future, simply replacing Windows itself using the original image downloaded from the internet will be the norm (while maintaining all the apps and data). I don't personally use the refresh this PC option because it's not quite there yet, but I can foresee a future where refreshing will be a regular thing that Microsoft does automatically, like Windows updates.

The vast majority of my clients run a home based business, and most of them only use web based software, Microsoft Office, and their printer software. I have larger business clients that use proprietary software, but that's not the norm. Even Quickbooks will soon be online only.

It takes about 2-4 minutes to image a fresh copy of Windows 10 onto an empty hard drive or SSD. Most of my clients have 10GB of data or less, so I can back that up in about 10 minutes over USB 3.0. I can pull their Office license from their Microsoft account and reinstall their Office and printer in about 10 minutes. All the while, Windows is downloading the most recent drivers and setting everything up. So now we're at 22 to 24 minutes to do a nuke n' pave. Vs. how long exactly to track down the exact little error that's causing their problem?

Now there are some things that take longer. If they have Outlook set up, backing up and restoring it can take another 10 minutes easy. Sometimes longer if they have a lot of emails.

For my business clients that have proprietary software, I keep an image of their drives on file so if they come in again with a problem, it's an option to restore from that image and just update the program data.

Reimaging a drive is quick and easy, and it is guaranteed to fix 100% of their software problems so you don't have any unsatisfied customers. I'm sure you've had the idiot customer that comes in complaining about one thing, you fix that one thing, then they call a few days later and complain that you didn't fix another thing that they never told you about. No thanks. Just put a bullet in my brain.

Now that's funny.... you must have trained your people to accept anything you say. That's great if you can get away with it. In my business it not about whats best or easier for me or my techs, its about properly and expertly servicing our clients.

"Get away with it?" If anyone is "getting away" with anything, it's techs that waste time (and their client's money) because they're too proud to simply reimage the system. Time is money. The faster I can get something out of here, the better it is for everyone involved. I don't reimage every system that comes through the door, but if I can fix the problem faster by starting over, that's exactly what I do. Of course I take many different things into account. If the client is particularly computer illiterate, I don't want them to have to deal with any more change than they have to. If it's a business client with custom software and it's going to be a big pain for them to get their software up and running again, then I don't reimage. But in this case, if the problem is big enough and costly enough for me to "fix" then it's worth it (cost wise) for them to pay ME to mess with the custom software and get it all running again after I reimage the system. I have clients of all types and of all skill levels. Some clients want to pay me to reinstall Office, while others are fine reinstalling it themselves. And if they have any problems, I'm just a phone call away with my finger on the remote support button.
 
You must only have windows 10 customers... that requires a refresh ...good on you... I train co-op students the first thing we teach them is how to load different OS and they have zero experience. That doesn't make them technicians. Some of my clients have dos programs, windows 98 programs and so on. If it takes me 3 hours to find a problem it takes me three hours. (I can even come on here and post something as diagnostics are being done) I don't charge for every minute of my time as I can accomplish other things while waiting. Most of our fixes are charged one or one and a half hours... and the customer will know what caused the issue to avoid in the future. If I spent 10 minutes and then started a format reload I would not be doing a proper diagnostic and the customer would have no idea what the issue is. My customers are paying me for a professional diagnostic and fix. It would make life pretty easy for me to get some co-op students to do the reloads and I wouldn't have to pay them.
Now it seems your only dealing with windows 10 great, the bottom line is you do what you do, I do what I do. I have too much respect for my customers to short change them.
 
You must only have windows 10 customers... that requires a refresh ...good on you...
That is all my customers as well.

Home users as well. Office and printers as well. Every once in a while quicken or some genealogy program.
Fab's makes data back and restore simple.
that requires a refresh

That still requires program reinstalls. And still takes longer than a good reinstall with an image that is up tp date.

If a computer with 10 comes in with os issues and has NEVER had a clean install it is getting it.
 
That is all my customers as well.

Home users as well. Office and printers as well. Every once in a while quicken or some genealogy program.
Fab's makes data back and restore simple.


That still requires program reinstalls. And still takes longer than a good reinstall with an image that is up tp date.

If a computer with 10 comes in with os issues and has NEVER had a clean install it is getting it.


Nice, I wish all my clients were on windows 10, not gonna happen for a while, we have a mixed bag of windows OS and mac users, were 5 minute drive from a university most of them are using either windows 10 or Mac but we still get the most of our clients that are on much older OS.
Were averaging 45 to 55 machines a week, well can't say that for this past July
 
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