EMERGENCY! Clients husband posted naked pics of her online (Ideas?)

[Mercenary Roadie]

Unfortunately the site makes their money off of people posting these types of pictures and the site clearly states they do not remove them even if they are of a minor.

The only real recourse for your client is the law and you took away most of her proof of her ex's wrongdoing by cleaning her system up.

In the future if you get called to help with a similar situation, immediately stop and clone the drive. The pull the original for the police and clean the cloned drive.

Now as to the ex's wrongdoing, courts do recognize internet stalking as being the same as in person stalking. Have her try going that route and get a restraining order on him that includes the internet.

 

[seedubya]

Lighten up...someone was gonna say it.
"Sexist"? Why would this be gender specific?

Lighen up? Why? Did you say something funny?
Someone was gonna say it.... so why not leave it to someone ELSE then?
Of course it's gender specific - the whole "post naked pictures of your ex" thing is done by men in the vast majority and viewed by men in the vast majority with the goal of punishing and humiliating women. How the **** is that NOT sexist? (not to mention abusive) And then you come along and give it your tacit support with a thoughtless little comment.

What this guy did was wrong - no excusess - and all comments like yours do, despite their humourous intent, is belittle that.

 

[Knightsman]

The OP is in southern California so I suspect that the 'ex' is also in the USA

Oh snap, he is.... that guy is in a world of hurt if she presses charges..

 

[frederick]

As Mercenary said, you did wrong here. The proof is gone. I would have discovered this software and without touching it further, given it back and told them they need a "cease and disses".

Other than that, not a lot you can do, she needs a lawyer who can get the ball rolling to stop obsessive cyber-stalking

 

[thecomputerguy]

As Mercenary said, you did wrong here. The proof is gone. I would have discovered this software and without touching it further, given it back and told them they need a "cease and disses".

Other than that, not a lot you can do, she needs a lawyer who can get the ball rolling to stop obsessive cyber-stalking

Hes already been charged with the spector software being on her computer, she chose not to pursue anything further than a restraining order. That is over and done with.

He also admitted to it in court.

 

[oldtech]

For the life of me I am still trying to figure out what the "EMERGENCY!" is. It's a naked picture FFS. Embarrassing? Hell yes. An emergency? meh - not so much. I don't see life or limb or fortune at stake here myself. ANYONE growing up in the digital age knows that pictures can and do wind up on the internet so the rule to keeping nekkies of you off the net is simple - Don't take 'em.

And why oh why would this be posted in tech to tech rather than tech eyes only? I guess worst case is the website mentioned by the OP is going to get a lot of free publicity out of it as the thread gets crawled.

 

[SilverLeaf]

Seems like ex's aren't the only thing you have to worry about. Looks like Best Buy has been accused of doing similar things as well.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ala-student-sues-best-buys-geek-squad-circulation/story?id=19950219

 

[thecomputerguy]

For the life of me I am still trying to figure out what the "EMERGENCY!" is. It's a naked picture FFS. Embarrassing? Hell yes. An emergency? meh - not so much. I don't see life or limb or fortune at stake here myself. ANYONE growing up in the digital age knows that pictures can and do wind up on the internet so the rule to keeping nekkies of you off the net is simple - Don't take 'em.

And why oh why would this be posted in tech to tech rather than tech eyes only? I guess worst case is the website mentioned by the OP is going to get a lot of free publicity out of it as the thread gets crawled.

Who sh1t in this guys cheerios this morning ...

 

[seedubya]

For the life of me I am still trying to figure out what the "EMERGENCY!" is. It's a naked picture FFS. Embarrassing? Hell yes. An emergency? meh - not so much. I don't see life or limb or fortune at stake here myself. ANYONE growing up in the digital age knows that pictures can and do wind up on the internet so the rule to keeping nekkies of you off the net is simple - Don't take 'em.

And why oh why would this be posted in tech to tech rather than tech eyes only? I guess worst case is the website mentioned by the OP is going to get a lot of free publicity out of it as the thread gets crawled.

It's an emergency because, unfortunately, not everyone who sees it will see it as simply an embarrassment. It could affect her job status, potential business etc etc.

 

[oldtech]

Well CW ...no one shat in my Cheerios - matter of fact been feeling quite good lately. If you consider naked pics an emergency you need a bit more (or different) life experience is all I can say...

 

[thecomputerguy]

Well CW ...no one shat in my Cheerios - matter of fact been feeling quite good lately. If you consider naked pics an emergency you need a bit more (or different) life experience is all I can say...

I guess I should explain that the link to her pictures was 3rd link in google ... 1.) Facebook Business Profile 2.) LinkedIn Profile 3.) Naked pictures

Considering she is currently searching for employment, yes ... it's an emergency.

 

[Bryce W]

For the life of me I am still trying to figure out what the "EMERGENCY!" is. It's a naked picture FFS. Embarrassing? Hell yes. An emergency? meh - not so much. I don't see life or limb or fortune at stake here myself. ANYONE growing up in the digital age knows that pictures can and do wind up on the internet so the rule to keeping nekkies of you off the net is simple - Don't take 'em.

And why oh why would this be posted in tech to tech rather than tech eyes only? I guess worst case is the website mentioned by the OP is going to get a lot of free publicity out of it as the thread gets crawled.

I see it as an emergency. Not for us, but definitely for her. The very definition of emergency is:
"A serious, unexpected, and often dangerous situation requiring immediate action."

The "danger" is the damage to a professional career, friends, family seeing it etc..

The speed is required because these things do spread very quickly as people save them to their computer, sites automatically cache etc.. It does require swift action

As for it being sexist, there is a double standard. The thing is that online nudies ARE different. Like YeOlStoneCat, if a picture of my wang showed up on the internet, it wouldnt bother me too much. I could even tell all the females I know that the pictures were there and they are very unlikely to look for it because, well, wangs are not attractive. Women look at other parts of the male body.

Its a whole different ballgame with women. If you heard that nudie pictures of an attractive co-worker were online, many guys would totally be tempted to find them, even just to say to themselves "So thats what she looks like naked".

I feel for this girl, and the guy is a scumbag.

 

[thecomputerguy]

I see it as an emergency. Not for us, but definitely for her. The very definition of emergency is:
"A serious, unexpected, and often dangerous situation requiring immediate action."

The "danger" is the damage to a professional career, friends, family seeing it etc..

The speed is required because these things do spread very quickly as people save them to their computer, sites automatically cache etc.. It does require swift action

As for it being sexist, there is a double standard. The thing is that online nudies ARE different. Like YeOlStoneCat, if a picture of my wang showed up on the internet, it wouldnt bother me too much. I could even tell all the females I know that the pictures were there and they are very unlikely to look for it because, well, wangs are not attractive. Women look at other parts of the male body.

Its a whole different ballgame with women. If you heard that nudie pictures of an attractive co-worker were online, many guys would totally be tempted to find them, even just to say to themselves "So thats what she looks like naked".

I feel for this girl, and the guy is a scumbag.

Thanks Bryce



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[Mercenary Roadie]

Hes already been charged with the spector software being on her computer, she chose not to pursue anything further than a restraining order. That is over and done with.

He also admitted to it in court.

Even though it turned out alright, what would you of done if he pleaded innocent and it had to go to court?

All of the evidence had been compromised and or deleted. Would the courts take your word as an expert witness? Very hard to say, but probably not unless you have been published or an academic who specializes in that type of software.

I firmly believe that as professionals we have to know when to stop and tell the owner that anything you do can and will affect them when you find stuff like this on their systems.

Just my opinion

 

[thecomputerguy]

Even though it turned out alright, what would you of done if he pleaded innocent and it had to go to court?

All of the evidence had been compromised and or deleted. Would the courts take your word as an expert witness? Very hard to say, but probably not unless you have been published or an academic who specializes in that type of software.

I firmly believe that as professionals we have to know when to stop and tell the owner that anything you do can and will affect them when you find stuff like this on their systems.

Just my opinion

I wouldn't have removed unless I verified that I could subpoena the records from spectorsoft, which I did. I gave her the options, I recommended that the computer be used as evidence but she wanted to move on and continue using her $1500 mac.

Again, the records were available through spector, it was an imac, and everthing I threw at the computer could not detect spector installed. It took a 2 hour conversation on the phone with the highest level support to confirm it was in fact installed. There was no evidence that I could trace other than spector confirming they had records on hand, EXCEPT that the dumb@ss left it in the recent downloads for safari.

Good luck finding spector on a mac, straight from spector themselves, they said they couldn't even tell me how to see if it was installed, they had to check their report records via the IP and computer name.

The only evidence was it being a recent download in safari.

 

[seedubya]

Well CW ...no one shat in my Cheerios -

That wasn't my comment....

 

[HawkinsPC]

Why in the heck do people take nude pictures? To me, they're just asking for an invasion of privacy. Same for sex tapes.

Don't act like a skank and be surprised when it comes back to kick you in the butt.

 

[Mercenary Roadie]

I wouldn't have removed unless I verified that I could subpoena the records from spectorsoft, which I did. I gave her the options, I recommended that the computer be used as evidence but she wanted to move on and continue using her $1500 mac.

Again, the records were available through spector, it was an imac, and everthing I threw at the computer could not detect spector installed. It took a 2 hour conversation on the phone with the highest level support to confirm it was in fact installed. There was no evidence that I could trace other than spector confirming they had records on hand, EXCEPT that the dumb@ss left it in the recent downloads for safari.

Good luck finding spector on a mac, straight from spector themselves, they said they couldn't even tell me how to see if it was installed, they had to check their report records via the IP and computer name.

The only evidence was it being a recent download in safari.

Not trying to be a jerk.

But are you a trained computer forensic expert?

The forensic people have access to many tools to find hidden programs and many of these are not available to those out side the forensic word.

If your client wanted use of her Mac, best thing would of been to put a new hard drive in and save the original for possible future prosecution.

Of Course Spector is going to tell you that, their whole business strategy is their software is undetectable.

 

[HawkinsPC]

CNN today: http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/29/tech/web/revenge-porn-law/index.html?hpt=hp_c2