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Okay, here's the story. (nb: a small group of you may have already heard about this story) Go to my local watering hole for an adult beverage at the end of the day (they're also a customer and I installed their wireless network). Guy sees me getting out of my Doctor Micro Jeep and asks do I work on laptops. "Sure," I tell him, "What's the problem with yours?"

He proceeds to tell me that his laptop was infected with "a virus or something" and that all his business data, email and quickbooks financial data is on it, has no backup, and took it to the Geek Squad. They tried and failed to fix it and tried to tell him he needed a new hard drive and a new motherboard.

Well, the guy might be dumb for not having any backups, but he wasn't THAT dumb, so he told Geek Squad just to give him his laptop back. They charged him $70 diagnostic fee, he paid and left.

I tell him I would be glad to take a look at it and asked his address so I could stop by. He says, "It's in the car, I just left Best Buy a half-hour ago."

He brings it in, I fire it up (offline, on battery) and sure enough... there's Antivirus Pro 2009, hijacked wallpaper, scary warnings and all. Task manager disabled, attempts to run ANY program results in a popup saying that whatever was selected (even from the run line, like regedit or services.msc) is infected and nothing happens except to try to get you to log on to their site to buy their software so cleaning can proceed. Yeah, right.

I take the laptop back to the shop. Hit the boot menu and fire up my trusty UBCD4Win CD. Load the hives, clean out everything obvious, do the same with directories and files. Finally get it to start working a little so I can get into Control Panel. Check Local Policies and sure enough, found about 16 restrictions that shouldn't be there. Clear those. Offline again and do a file search for any file created or modified on or about the same date and time as the bogus ones I'd already found. Found a bunch more, many of which were read-only, hidden and system. Blew those away, but in the process, discovered he also was infected with Spy Sheriff and several other trojan downloaders.

Anyway, long story short and after some more work and finally getting a good antivirus and antispyware installed and working (he originally had Avast! but never got the activation code, so it had expired and was waaay out of date). Cleaned out a few more that those programs (Vipre and Prevx) found and finally had a clean working laptop. Went to Microsoft Update (it had been turned off), downloaded and installed 42 updates, re-installed and re-enabled System Restore (also turned off and not working). Updated Adobe, Java, Firefox (was version 2.0 before), backed up his .PST files, My Documents, Desktop and QuickBooks files to my network, then burned them to a DVD, just in case he got stupid again.

Called him up and before I could say anything beyond identifying myself, he interrupts and says, with a long sigh, "Okay, give me the bad news."

"The bad news is your checking account is going to be $239 lighter," I tell him, "The good news is your laptop is completely clean, working, updated and I have a backup of all your critical data."

Long pause on his end. "You're serious? You fixed it?"

"Serious as a heart attack, and yes."

When I meet up with him to demo his laptop and give him the bill and the after-action report, I thought he was going to kiss me (glad he didn't... lol).

Result: One happy new customer, who will never go to Geek Squad again, and now has a stack of my business cards to hand out. :-)

Oh, and the kicker? I saw his receipt from the Geek Squad and realized that at least one of the infections occurred while his laptop was in their hands!

late add: I just realized as I was posting this, that I forgot to check his hosts file. whoops.
 
Oh, and the kicker? I saw his receipt from the Geek Squad and realized that at least one of the infections occurred while his laptop was in their hands!

HA!, we had one of those last month. A guy brought in a laptop with the usual infections, but it turns out that one of them was a program the last "tech" said would be ok to pay for and use. It seems the last tech gave up on trying to clean the machine and the client was stuck with one of those "you are infected, pay for this now" type trojans and he just told the client to buy it.

Amazing.
 
HA!, we had one of those last month. A guy brought in a laptop with the usual infections, but it turns out that one of them was a program the last "tech" said would be ok to pay for and use. It seems the last tech gave up on trying to clean the machine and the client was stuck with one of those "you are infected, pay for this now" type trojans and he just told the client to buy it.

Amazing.

Wow... no kidding? Holy crap!
 
HA!, we had one of those last month. A guy brought in a laptop with the usual infections, but it turns out that one of them was a program the last "tech" said would be ok to pay for and use. It seems the last tech gave up on trying to clean the machine and the client was stuck with one of those "you are infected, pay for this now" type trojans and he just told the client to buy it.

Amazing.

Stories like this make me want to cry for our industry. There really should be some sort of program out there that regulates it or something. :mad:
 
I had a customer take his desktop into best buy with a bad power supply. After a week and a half of multiple calls and no action he went and demanded it back (they tried to charge him a "diagnostic fee", but they hadn't actually done anything so he didn't pay). In 15 minutes I had him back up and running the same day he called.
 
I had a customer take his desktop into best buy with a bad power supply. After a week and a half of multiple calls and no action he went and demanded it back (they tried to charge him a "diagnostic fee", but they hadn't actually done anything so he didn't pay). In 15 minutes I had him back up and running the same day he called.

Seriously? Are the geeks really that incompetent? How hard is it to replace a PSU-

  • Open Chassis - 1 Minute
  • Remove Cables - 2 to 5 Minutes depending on complexity
  • Remove PSU - 2 Minutes
  • Install New PSU - 2 Minutes
  • Connect Cables - 3 to 6 minutes depending on complexity
  • Close chassis - 1 Minute

11 to 17 minutes- and that's highballing it. *sigh* and they probably would have charged upwards of $150 for that.
 
Yeah, its ridiculous. He kept calling every couple of days and they kept telling him it would go on the bench "tomorrow". I have heard plenty of horror stories from former Geek Squad customers. I love seeing the little "best buy" stickers on their chassis when I come to fix their systems. Makes me feel even better when I take care of their problem quickly and for a reasonable price.
 
Stories like this make me want to cry for our industry. There really should be some sort of program out there that regulates it or something. :mad:

I know. I may be inexperienced, but I'm not that stupid. The OP gave me some good suggestions as to what to check for with these fake AVs. I think that I should really do a registry cleaning along with the virus removal.

The problem with having guys from India work on the system remotely is you never know what's on the systems in India that are being used to clean your PC. Anybody remember the Chinese digital picture frames that had viruses in their firmware?
 
I've developed a standard answer to "how come you could fix it and the Geek Squad couldn't?"

"I know what I'm doing!"
 
And, you're probably not inclined to replace motherboards, hard drives and reinstall the operating system as a solution to every problem. :-)

I also explain to people that the kid they are talking to is not making the decisions. It's some MBA/CPA in Minneapolis that hasn't the slightest interest in seeing their computer is fixed. He's just concerned with the maximum extraction of money with the minimum of time. That's a fact!

It reminds me of Sears some years ago giving their car centers high goals for transmission replacements and then the suits being "surprised" when they were sued for needlessly replacing working transmissions - it was against corporate policy.

I need to stop - getting way off topic.
 
I can proudly say I have replaced exactly 0 motheboards this year. Have replaced plenty of hard drives, RAM and power supplies though. I have found if the computer is old enough to need a new MB its too old to be worth fixing.

If a two-three year old comp needed a new motherboard I would give them a qoute for the work but most people just buy a new comp instead and I make the money from backing up their existing data.
 
I also explain to people that the kid they are talking to is not making the decisions. It's some MBA/CPA in Minneapolis that hasn't the slightest interest in seeing their computer is fixed. He's just concerned with the maximum extraction of money with the minimum of time. That's a fact!

Agreed it's the same with our "Pissy Werld" over here in Britain, their techs are told to sell extras that aren't necessary. :rolleyes:
 
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