[SOLVED] Live365 Alternatives?

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I have a couple of retail customers who, for the last few years, have used a paid subscription to Live365 (with the appropriate music performance licences) to pump 'Muzak' through their stores, via a dedicated PC connected to a PA system.

The PCs start automatically at opening time and run Live365's desktop application, playing the chosen station, then automatically shut down again at closing time. This setup has worked great for the last few years and precisely meets their requirements (ad-free music and no intervention required, except to change the station a few times a year for Xmas, etc).

We recently received the following email from Live365, informing us that due to Recording Industry greed price changes, Live365 may soon be no more.

Dear Live365 Listener,

For 17 years, Live365 has offered small webcasters the opportunity to stream music and talk programming, providing an alternative distribution channel for diverse, quality content on the Internet in a legally responsible way.

Recently, the Copyright Royalty Board, the governing entity for establishing the sound recording royalty rates that are paid to copyright holders, has published the new rates for 2016-20. The previous provisions for small webcasters to opt for a percentage of revenue model were not renewed.

The current provisions end at the end of 2015. The absence of this license will make legally streaming copyrighted musical content prohibitively expensive for many small to mid-sized Internet broadcasters. Live365 relies on this license for many of their broadcast partners and, as such, has hard decisions to make regarding their future in the streaming industry.

Two weeks ago, Live365 faced an additional blow, losing the support of its investors who have helped the company with its mission for over a decade.

The company was forced to significantly reduce staff and is now actively looking for partners to help continue the service into 2016. At this time, Live365 is planning to keep their stations active while getting the word out about this investment opportunity. With nearly two decades of Internet streaming experience and thousands of paying customers, this could be an ideal situation for a company looking to diversify into streaming audio.
CEO N. Mark Lam has begun initial discussions with possible business partners as the company looks to new options in the new year.

Dean Kattari, Director of Broadcasting for Live365:

"The true value of Live365 lies in it's diversity of content - it's a sanctuary where you can hear music and other content that it so unlike the template broadcasting that is heard on most terrestrial radio. These stations are the hard work of real human beings who use Live365 to share their vision with the world. It's a home for musical discovery because many of these stations play emerging artists that terrestrial stations are reluctant to take a chance on. It would be a great loss for this to all go away."

While Live365 is going through this process, we understand that our listeners will have questions about how all of this will affect their service so we have provided a simple FAQ section to help answer some of them.

We thank you for being part of the Live365 family and hope for the best in 2016.

Rock on,

The Last of the Live365ers


FAQ

So what happened?
Please refer to the full PR bulletin here. Basically, Live365 may not be able to continue service for our broadcasters after January 31, 2016; so streaming audio may stop at that point.

Can I still get support for my current services?
We will be deferring all inquiries to email correspondence only. Technicians will be accessing emails 7 days a week throughout January to assist our listeners. For Inquiries, please email listensupport@live365.com.

How does this affect my VIP services?
Many of our stations will continue broadcasting until January 31th. You can use that time to research other streaming provider options.

I prepaid for the year/3 months/6 months, am I eligible for any refunds?
Prorated refund of services will be facilitated by requests sent to Refund@live365.com. Please note these emails will be handled with the highest priority.
So that we can quickly reply to your requests, please include at least one of the following:
Username - Email address - Account number

Why is my preferred station is not broadcasting?
Due to the new rulings of the Copyright Royalty Board, some of our stations (Personal Broadcasters) will not be issued a new license for 2016 so they might stop broadcasting at the end of December. Our Pro Broadcasting stations should continue for the duration of January.

Does anyone know of a reliable alternative service?

I need something that has a desktop application, multiple stations/genres (including seasonal) and an ad-free music option.
 
Might want to check out Pandora (ad free paid version) and spotify I think are the 2 big ones.
If you use Pandora or something like it in a commercial setting, there are different rules that apply.
Pandora has a commercial service.
http://help.pandora.com/customer/portal/articles/215200-playing-music-in-a-commercial-setting

I believe Spotify does not allow playing in a commercial setting at all.

In the music industry, at least in the US, playing music in a public setting is considered a "performance" and special royalties that must be paid. Another example of the copyright laws being out of whack. ASCAP and BMI have been known to send people to bars, restaurants, and shops that play music to make sure they are using licensed sources.
 
Might want to check out Pandora (ad free paid version) and spotify I think are the 2 big ones.
Thanks.

I've heard of both of those but never used either of them. Isn't Spotify more like a 'personal jukebox' than internet radio? Ideally I'm looking for something more like Live365, that has a number of radio stations playing back-to-back music without too much track repetition.

When I visit Pandora (assuming I have the correct site), I get this:
http://www.pandora.com/restricted
We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S., Australia and New Zealand.
I guess being in the UK reduces my options o_O
 
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In the music industry, at least in the US, playing music in a public setting is considered a "performance" and special royalties that must be paid. Another example of the copyright laws being out of whack. ASCAP and BMI have been known to send people to bars, restaurants, and shops that play music to make sure they are using licensed sources.
I think similar rules apply in the UK. My customer's stores already have the relevant licences I believe, for which they pay large annual fees. In fact they have been visited by 'inspectors' on a few occasions (while playing Live365) and been asked to provide proof of their licensing, which has always been found to be satisfactory.
 
Ok, just an update ...


Live365 is no more, driven out of business by the CRB's exorbitant royalty rates:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmci...live365-is-closing-this-weekend/#10daa20766c5


After looking at numerous alternatives and eliminating most of them (either because they didn't fit the criteria or they did not permit commercial use), we went with a company called ImageSound: http://www.imagesound.com

ImageSound works a little different to how Live365 worked but the end result is the same. Like Live365 ImageSound provides a Windows-based music player application but unlike Live365 it doesn't stream the music. Instead it downloads hundreds of tracks and creates a random playlist. The tracks are changed frequently and selected based on the music 'profile(s)' you choose.



Thanks for all the suggestions :)
 
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