MacBook Air move files without logging in

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We have a 2011 MacBook Air. The hard drive is completely full, well actually about 100mb of free space, and it is just going to a grey screen when we try to log on. We want to try to move some of the data off of it to see if that rectifies the logging on issue.

How can we move some files off off it? We have all kinds of methods for doing this on a windows machine, but not so sure what to do with this computer especially since this contains an ssd(we can't just pull the drive out)

Thanks for any suggestions.
 
You can try to boot into Target Mode and see if you can access it that way.
Or you can use a bootable external drive, like you would make with Carbon Copy Cloner from a working machine.
Boot to the external and copy the files from the internal drive.
 
Totally agree with altrenda, boot to target disk mode (hold "T" on startup) and connect via firewire to another computer.

Then move / delete files as needed.

Alternatively, buy a SSD kit from OWC and pull the drive and mount elsewhere.

Another alternative: you might be able to boot into Mac Safe Mode (http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201262) and work with your files that way.


(We had quite a few people that bought expensive MBP's with small 120 GB HD's, and then linked them to their 100 GB DropBox accounts... ouch!... so we had to get clever in dealing with over-full Mac's).
 
Thanks. Those are all great ideas. I don't think i have a FireWire cable, I will have to order one. Since this is a job that needs to get finished or at least started on tomorrow, I think both of those software solutions will work nice.
 
If you do not already have one take the time to make yourself a bootable USB drive. Well worth the time for future requirements. I've got a 500 gb drive setup with 10.6, 10.7, 10.8 partitions.
 
We do have a bootable drive with 10.6. I thought that may not work do to the different firmware versions of the MacBook Air. I will try it later this morning.
 
If you do not already have one take the time to make yourself a bootable USB drive. Well worth the time for future requirements. I've got a 500 gb drive setup with 10.6, 10.7, 10.8 partitions.

Any special techniques for installing multiple versions you would like to share?
 
We do have a bootable drive with 10.6. I thought that may not work do to the different firmware versions of the MacBook Air. I will try it later this morning.

Depends on when it was purchased. 10.7 came out in July and machines probably shipped natively with it a couple of months later. If you boot into option mode just select the 10.6 drive. If it boots you are good to go. If there is a firmware issue it will either hang or report that it's not compatible. You can punch in the serial number here, http://www.everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/ , and I believe it tells you what version it shipped with.

On the multiboot. It's a pretty simple process to be honest. Just take a drive and partition it into 3 60gb partitions. Make sure each one if setup with GUID and is named for the OS version. Get your hands on each installer, run it and point it to the respective partition your created.

When you are done you will see each OS choice when you boot using the Option key. I make the left over space into a scratch pad area using FAT32 to it can be used with all OS's.
 
Totally agree with altrenda, boot to target disk mode (hold "T" on startup) and connect via firewire to another computer.

There is no firewire port on a Macbook Air. TDM isn't an option.

The machine should have a recovery partition if it is running any OS above 10.6.8. Connect an external HD via usb. Turn on the computer holding the option key. There should be 2 volumes listed if the machine is running an OS newer then 10.6.x. One will be listed as "Macintosh HD" or similar. Other partition will be listed as "10.x recovery". Choose the Recovery partition.

When booted to the recovery partition, you will be presented with some selections. Choose Disk Utility (should be one of the selections presented). Once in Disk Utility select the volume "Macintosh HD" or similar. Once that volume is highlighted select either the "restore" tab or select "new image" along the top right row of buttons. Your selection will depend on if you just want to make an image file or if you essentially want to clone the volume. Choose "restore" if there isn't anything that is wanted on external HD.

All of this is assuming the external HD is partitioned as GUID and the partition map is Mac OS extended (Journaled) (*Can't use an NTFS volume and FAT is only good for file sizes less then 4GB). If the external is not set up correctly then do a search for partitioning and formatted a windows drive for Mac or something similar. I really don't want to get sidetracked with explaining that process as well. But you are in Disk Utility already you'll want to stay where you are to also prepare the external HD. Also, make sure any data already on the external drive is backed up or not needed.

Using the restore method (to clone) drag the volume "Macintosh HD" or similar to the "source" box. Drag the external HD to the "destination" box. Once that is done, click the restore button in the lower right. It will prompt you about data loss and such, but as long as you have a good understanding of the source and destination just click okay. You'll see a progress bar until the process is finished. Once it is complete, there will be no indication except the progress bar will be gone and the external HD will more than likely have taken on the name of the source volume.

If creating a disk image. Click "new image". A finder window will open asking you where you want to save the image. choose the external HD. No need to change the name of the image file as the default name should be the "volume name.dmg". Click save and the process begins. Watching the progress will be nearly identical to the restore procedure listed above.

When either method is completed. Just connect the external to another booting Mac. If the restore procedure was used, the volume will just appear mounted on the desktop. You should be able to freely browse the directory to verify everything is there. If you used the new image procedure, you'll have to go into the external HD and double click on the "Macintosh.dmg" file. It may go through a lengthy verification process before mounting. This of course can be skipped by clicking skip on the verification window. Once mounted the volume will appear on the desktop as "Macintosh HD" or similar.
 
I will have all versions except 10.7 shortly saved to usb. I had a MacBook Air with 10.9.5 which I used the recovery partition to create a bootable usb version. I had an unupdated Mac mini with 10.8.5 which I used the same process to create a usb bootable copy. I started the upgrades process to 10.10 this evening and will use that later to make my finals usb version of Yosemite.

Without a recovery partition of the version you need and no dvd media available what other options do people have told install older versions?
 
I will have all versions except 10.7 shortly saved to usb. I had a MacBook Air with 10.9.5 which I used the recovery partition to create a bootable usb version. I had an unupdated Mac mini with 10.8.5 which I used the same process to create a usb bootable copy. I started the upgrades process to 10.10 this evening and will use that later to make my finals usb version of Yosemite.

Without a recovery partition of the version you need and no dvd media available what other options do people have told install older versions?

Apple started the OS App store downloads with 10.7 and that is the way it will be going forward as far as I can tell. Simple way to get it. Prior to that you needed the physical media. 10.6 is still available from Apple but earlier than that eBay is probably the best. But the machine also plays into account. You have to have a machine whose firmware will support the OS to be able to do an install even to an external HD.

Of course some may think - VM! The catch with that is Apple prohibited VM's until 10.7. 10.7 and later it is allowed but has to be done on Apple hardware.
 
Right, but thunderbolt is an option... and works with a 2011 MBA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etMf9w6Ko8M
Which is useless without a thunderbolt drive or at least a thunderbolt to usb/firewire type cable to use with a usb/firewire external drive....
Furthermore, the method I pointed out doesn't require another booting Mac to connect with. You simply need the Macbook Air itself and a usb external HD.
 
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We ended up building a compatible usb bootable version of OS X using his recovery partition. Then we used that to boot his machine and move a few gigabytes of data off the system. We also ran fix permissions. It seems to be working well now. Monday we are cloning his functional OS to a new 250gb ssd. This is turning out to to be a nice simple, very profitable job.
 
Which is useless without a thunderbolt drive or at least a thunderbolt to usb/firewire type cable to use with a usb/firewire external drive....
Furthermore, the method I pointed out doesn't require another booting Mac to connect with. You simply need the Macbook Air itself and a usb external HD.

It's nice to be reminded about the basics.
Sometimes we get wrapped up in techniques and methods from trying other software or ways that worked for special situations.
 
If you ask me "how do I QUICKLY remove files from a full drive?" my answer is boot to target disk mode and use the drive like a USB drive ... delete as desired. Total time = a few minutes.

If you ask me "how do I clone to a bigger drive?" my answer is similar in nature to that provided by Mr. Anonymous. Total time = more than a few minutes.

There are different resolutions depending on what you are trying to achieve.

And how much time you want to invest. And how much money you want to invest.

Glad you've got a lot of feedback on different paths you can take.
 
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