Modular Mac Pro

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If you think Apple's prices were outrageous now you don't want to see the prices for their new equipment. Totally killed any excitement I had about it thinking they would be in the 2-3k range. It seems like this is only meant for the high end video publishing companies and not any average video editing/ photography company.

The mac pro starts at $5999. The new 6K display starts at $4999 but doesn't come with a stand or mount. You have to pay for that separately and it costs $1000. All this and they can only give you a 256 gb ssd as well.

I guess it looks like a cheese grater because it will shred your wallet.



https://9to5mac.com/2019/06/03/apple-unveils-new-modular-mac-pro-at-wwdc-2019/
 
Of course it's $6K. Only Apple can charge 4x as much for what the PC industry has been doing for 40+ years. I guess I don't get it.. "modular"? Is that not the PCI/e cards and HDDs, etc.. Oh, wow, Apple.. bravo.. put the PCI stuff on rails.. whoopty do!
 
From reading it sounds like when the price of the stand was announced the whole audience groaned in disgust for the first time ever. I don't get it either. It's hard to imagine someone except a movie studio or someone with more money than brains to pay $11k for a base system like this.
 
Yeah, the current base price for a Mac Pro was $3,000. Now it's $6,000. Guess Apple execs figured if everyone was crying about no new Mac Pro that they could punish them by doubling the price.
 
I give Apple Laptops and Desktops 5-10 years max unless something drastic happens. The people buying a $6000 computer know better.
 
I give Apple Laptops and Desktops 5-10 years max unless something drastic happens. The people buying a $6000 computer know better.

Since Apple came out with the IPadOS for Ipads. I'm wondering if Apple is trying to kill off their line of laptops in 5-10 years and replace them with Ipad pros. At least the prices for IPads are totally crazy yet.

edit- I meant ipad prices aren't crazy yet.
 
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Apple's pricing was ALWAYS way out there, but they've upped their prices by 2x - 4x over the last few years. Who the f*ck spends $1,800 for a flagship phone, $7,300 for a maxed out MacBook Pro, and $11,000 for a BASE MODEL desktop? If you want to get into an affordable Mac, they punish you by giving you a 5400rpm hard drive in 2019 (iMac) or a 120GB SSD that can barely hold a clean installation of Mac OS (MacBook Air).

Why even bother with this bullsh*t? Just ask $10,000,000.00 and get it over with. The only people spending this kind of money on Apple stuff are the people with tons of money anyway. Why not just take more of it?
 
If you think Apple's prices were outrageous now you don't want to see the prices for their new equipment. Totally killed any excitement I had about it thinking they would be in the 2-3k range. It seems like this is only meant for the high end video publishing companies and not any average video editing/ photography company.

The mac pro starts at $5999. The new 6K display starts at $4999 but doesn't come with a stand or mount. You have to pay for that separately and it costs $1000. All this and they can only give you a 256 gb ssd as well.

I guess it looks like a cheese grater because it will shred your wallet.



https://9to5mac.com/2019/06/03/apple-unveils-new-modular-mac-pro-at-wwdc-2019/
We need an LOL button.
 
@Slaters Kustum Machines Here you go. o_O

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Many years ago Apple decided to pretty much abandon any effort to gain computer market share at lower price points. That being said their efforts to capture the high end hasn't worked very well either. The Mac Pro towers were popular but that's about it. The coffee can Mac Pro was a flop for a number of reasons and I predict this model will be as well. They, unfortunately, seem to be stuck on this style thing which most don't really care about. There are plenty of users willing to pay top dollar for top flight equipment but aren't will to pay a 30% plus premium for it to look "sexy".

Over the years I've compared many of these to kludged together "compatibles" in the Wintel world. Typically they've been 15-25% less than Apple. Of course Apple is banking on, and not achieving much in reality, people wanting the style. I did a quick comparison to a HP Z8, their top shelf workstation, and Apples price point appears to still fall in that window.

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The most notable thing is Apple's cr@ppy service. Haven't looked into it but I'd guess it's still their stupid carry in only warranty unless you want to pay up front to have parts onsite.

This model, like the coffee can, has Cube written all over it.
 
So if the stand for the monitor is a grand extra does the monitor have VESA mounting ability or are they basically forcing you to buy the mount for a grand?

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So if the stand for the monitor is a grand extra does the monitor have VESA mounting ability or are they basically forcing you to buy the mount for a grand?

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They have a vesa adapter to mount it but that costs $200
 
Watching the keynote in 12 minutes here:


They claim a competing HP system is $8,000.

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Doesn't make the new Mac Pro sound too outrageous. But I don't know if that's a fair comparison or not.
 
Apple’s top spec Mac Pro will likely cost at least $35,000
That’s before you count the GPUs or a Pro Display XDR screen
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...pro-how-much-top-spec-price-estimate-ballpark

Apple announced today that its new Mac Pro starts at an already pricey $6,000, but the company neglected to mention how much the top-of-the-line model will cost. So we shopped around for equivalent parts to the top-end spec that Apple’s promising. As it turns out: $33,720.88 is likely the bare minimum — and that’s before factoring in the four GPUs, which could easily jack that price up to around $45,000.

For all that dough, big-budget video editors and other creative types get a lot of firepower: a 28-core Intel Xeon W processor, an almost-impossible-to-comprehend 1.5TB of RAM, 4TB of SSD storage, and four AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo GPUs — assuming you can afford one.

Make no mistake, these will be nice machines in the upper echelon of configuration... machines for REAL professional workflows or serious server loading. That's part of the problem. No common man will be able to afford this, but likely will not need it either. Real professionals and businesses that need this kind of power in the $35-$40K range are going to be looking at actual professional datacenter machines, and get more bang and support for their buck.
The base model is lack-luster. The Video card sucks... a radeon pro 580x competes with GTX 970 in terms of performance. (!?) The Radeon RX 580 is faster.

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The Mac's Xeon(Base Version will likely be similar to this Mac-only Intel part, Xeon W-2140B
Similarly, the PC side has the slightly better than new mac(3.7GHz), Xeon W-2145.

The Mac Xeon W-2140B can be had for $600-$800
The PC Xeon W-2145 is $1100


So, let's split the diff. and say the Xeon is $950

Crucial 32GB 2666MHz ECC DDR4 - $160
Radeon RX 580 - $179.99 (Not the pro card, yes, but is faster than the pro card, higher wattage; Apple needs thermals and low Watts)
Samsung SSD MZVLW256HEHP PM961 256GB M.2 NVMe PCIe - $49

As for motherboards, the Apple board can only accept 2 PCIe graphics cards.. so lets assume that it has a limited PCIe stack like this C422 Xeon board:
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and NOT like this C422 Xeon board:

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So, take your pick of boards:
Supermicro MBD-X11SRA-F-B Xeon Skylake-W C422 - $319.47
Supermicro X11SRA-RF - $322.30
Supermicro X11SRA-F - $340
ASUS WS C422 PRO/SE ATX Server Motherboard Socket 2066 - $350

Lets call it $340

We'll even splurge on a nice Corsair 650W Gold modular PSU (The Apple comes with a 300W!) - $89.99


So far, we're at a grand total of $1767
How is this a good deal?

For the extra $4232, you can figure out which cooler, case and additional connectivity options you want and not skimp at all on any of it, and have all the extra trimmings.

$5,999 for that!? Garbage!
 
They have a vesa adapter to mount it but that costs $200
Are you kidding me? So your basically buying a monitor that is useless unless you spend more money on it to mount it.

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Are you kidding me? So your basically buying a monitor that is useless unless you spend more money on it to mount it.

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To be honest it doesn't matter. Apple knows that only big budget production studios are going to buy this and they are just milking them for every dollar. I'm sure I will never see one of these ever come into my shop and I will never have a use for it either.
 
Doesn't make the new Mac Pro sound too outrageous. But I don't know if that's a fair comparison or not.

Just like any other OEM, they do what ever they can to keep everyone from seeing apples to apples comparisons (pun intended0. So of course it'll be very tough to make an accurate comparison. For instance the Z8 can have a processor costing almost 20k - just for the processor. Doubt Apple will have anything that high end.
 
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