Metanis
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We should just let the machines govern us since people are so illogical and imperfect.
The Senate is a good balance for the House of Reps. This gives smaller states some political influence.
We disagree on this. Lets leave it at thatThen you also must support the Electoral College, it exists because it's the two house compromise for the Executive branch. It balances the will of the population, against the states individually. Using a purely popular vote based system to select our President is to allow New York, and California to choose who runs the Federal Government exclusively. Heck, it's even worse than that, it basically means LA and NYC get to elect the President.
Or could it usefully be replaced by something like the British House of Lords?
For those unfamiliar with the Mother or Parliaments, the Lords is a slowly-changing unelected group whose main purpose is to veto legislation passed by the political mayflies in the House of Commons. They're not immune to outside pressure but as they can (almost) never be removed they're not constantly concerned about looking good to their constituents and worrying about the next election. They tend to take a longer-term view and aren't as rigidly divided along party lines as their counterparts in the lower House. They're also much more dignified and polite, possibly because they expect to be working with the same people for many decades.
If US senators were elected for life you'd eventually end up with something similar - a (small-c) conservative brake on Representational and Presidential extremism and short-termism.
We disagree on this. Lets leave it at that
In other words you stand on a talking point instead of actual reason, you've been called on it, and now you're running away.
So according to you and others, the EC creates parity for the smaller states. But only 3 or 4 battle ground states determine our elections anyway. The EC is a political anachronism that has worn out its welcome.
Kill that goofy blunder of the SCOTUS Citizens United along with the EC and maybe, just maybe we will get more than a 50% voter turnout.
I am not running away from a debate. No one here wants to read our back and forth banter and neither one of us will change each others minds so what is the point of arguing?
Using a purely popular vote based system to select our President is to allow New York, and California to choose who runs the Federal Government exclusively. Heck, it's even worse than that, it basically means LA and NYC get to elect the President..