Problem with charger for a Compaq Presario CQ60

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This charger should apparently output 18.5V (I'm definitely getting mains voltage into the brick) but testing the plug with a multimeter shows nothing, which I would take as meaning that it's faulty. However, nagging away at the back of my mind is a vague recollection of reading somewhere that the voltage only comes up when the charger is under load, and that it would indeed show zero volts when off load. Can anyone confirm either way please?

Thanks
 
However, nagging away at the back of my mind is a vague recollection of reading somewhere that the voltage only comes up when the charger is under load, and that it would indeed show zero volts when off load. Can anyone confirm either way please?

Nope, that's Amps. Voltage is like water pressure, it should always be there. Amps is the water. If your multimeter contacts are in the right places, you should be seeing somewhere around 18.5V
 
For anyone who doesn't understand any of this watch this video on youtube, it gives a detailed but understandable explanation of amps and volts. Its not perfect but you get a lot in 5 minutes. I show this to people who are totally lost about electricity and it helps them get some grasp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xPjES-sHwg
 
This charger should apparently output 18.5V (I'm definitely getting mains voltage into the brick) but testing the plug with a multimeter shows nothing, which I would take as meaning that it's faulty. However, nagging away at the back of my mind is a vague recollection of reading somewhere that the voltage only comes up when the charger is under load, and that it would indeed show zero volts when off load. Can anyone confirm either way please?

Thanks

I have genuine chargers for those in stock. Just verified that you should get a voltage reading on your multimeter without putting load on it.
 
I have genuine chargers for those in stock. Just verified that you should get a voltage reading on your multimeter without putting load on it.

Ah yes, I didn't even think that they might actually put a feature like that in. Have you encountered any that do that? I know that you can't measure voltage from one of Apple's DC-in boards unless it is under load. You can still measure it from the adapter, but you have to push the right two pins in without shorting it out. Not worth the effort.
 
Ah yes, I didn't even think that they might actually put a feature like that in. Have you encountered any that do that?.

I haven't found any like that personally but I do know that getting the correct voltage out of the end of the DC plug does not necessarily mean the charger will be good under load, much like an ATX PSU tester can read "definitely bad" but not "definitely good".
That's why having known good chargers or PSUs are a must in the workshop. Saves a lot of guesswork.

I have found a few laptops that wouldn't power on without the battery being in though. Some Sony ones I think they were.
 
I sometimes fix chargers if and only if they are genuine, replacements are not worth the time. A lot of the chargers still have the brick working properly, it is the cord that sometimes is chewed up internally, thus creating a short and tripping the internal breaker, and no voltage coming out. What I do is open the charger with a dremel using a diamond cutting wheel for stones, speed set a bit low, and slowly work around, paying attention not to cut too deep. Usually a flat blade screwdriver will pop the case open. I then desolder the DC cord, and then test for voltages. If good, I just replace the DC cord with a good one. Now comes the messy part, putting the charger back together. I clean and smooth out the edges with a boxcutter, and whip up a batch of epoxy. Believe me, if you haven't worked with epoxy, it will be messy, with sticky fingers and epoxy all over the place except where you really want it. I dab the epoxy around the edges and use masking tape to hold everything together, holding still for just a couple of minutes, not more. 3X3 inch squares of paper towels dipped in alcohol does wonders for cleaning the extra epoxy, if there is too much, I scrape the excess off, wiping a lot with the towels. I use epoxy that dries out grey in color, I haven't found any in black, so I do just a bit of touch up with a permanent felt marker. The epoxy usually cures in 24hrs, so after testing again, it's ready for the customer.
Opening the charger is the hardest thing, I have tried just a boxcutter (dangerous!), hammer and strong screwdriver, a hydraulic press (pressing opposite side edges) and just plain whack with a mallet. Nothing really works, only the dremel is good, but it still slow and messy (lots of plastic dust). The problem lies with the plastics used, it is almost like PVC.
By the way, usually a good whack will open any replacement charger, that tells you how cheap they are made.
 
Yikes! Reminds me of the days when I lived on a tiny island in the Caribbean. Back then, chargers were stupidly expensive especially with air freight and exorbitant customs charges. We fixed a fair few back then but now... a new charger costs less than the time it would take me to open, fix, patch it back together and clean up the mess. I'd only do it for some specialized bit of equipment.
 
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