Program instantly shutting down right after splash screen - What should I look for?

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I realize this is a "generic question" but I'm hoping there is a generic answer in terms of where and what to look for. It's been years since I had something like this, and I suspect the event log will "tell all" but I'm not currently remembering what to look for or exactly how.

Any guidance is appreciated.
 
I realize this is a "generic question" but I'm hoping there is a generic answer in terms of where and what to look for. It's been years since I had something like this, and I suspect the event log will "tell all" but I'm not currently remembering what to look for or exactly how.

Any guidance is appreciated.
Maybe the program didn't install in full or perhaps there are .dll files missing or corrupt? This used to happen a lot on older laptops with older software. I haven't had it happen in a long time so maybe it doesn't anymore?
 
The problem being that this is from a client running a very fresh install of Windows 11, and newly installed program.

I plan to do an uninstall/reinstall of the program, but would love to have other tricks to try.

Like you said, I haven't had this happen in ages, more than a decade at least, and whatever I knew about diagnostic digging regarding this circumstance is lost to the mists of time.
 
The problem being that this is from a client running a very fresh install of Windows 11, and newly installed program.

I plan to do an uninstall/reinstall of the program, but would love to have other tricks to try.

Like you said, I haven't had this happen in ages, more than a decade at least, and whatever I knew about diagnostic digging regarding this circumstance is lost to the mists of time.
I think a reinstall of the program is a good idea. Is it compatible with Windows 11?
 
I see this a lot with games. Sometimes you have to run them as admin. Or adjust program compatibility like Disable Full Screen Optimizations. Or you have to install a specific DirectX package. Somebody, somewhere will have posted a fix. Google Fu for the win!
 
For the rest of the story so far. Google Fu did nothing for me. It's not that it didn't turn up anything at all, but what it turned up was old, and in this case, not applicable, and was very sparse to begin with.

Here's the output of NirSoft's App Crash View:
AppCrashView_Screenshot.jpg

I finally gave up, but for diagnostic purposes have installed (and, yes, uninstalled - as I am not the licensed user) the software both on my own Windows 11 laptop and my partner's Windows 10 laptop and it works just fine on both of them.

I've advised the client to perform a completely clean reinstall of Windows 11 (and given what she showed me regarding her own diagnostic efforts before calling me, she'll have no problem following the instructions I gave her to do this, from beginning to end) then try installing the software on her laptop again. If that doesn't do it, nothing will.

At least the company was decent and has offered her the next version of the software at no charge, and it's slated to be released in the next couple of months. What's really odd is that the version before the current one works fine on that laptop, and I know the DLL that's flagged above has been a part of the package at least since 2017, as that's when the info I did get from Google made direct reference to this DLL as part of a different diagnosis and fix.

Very strange.
 
The latest from the company that produces the software is now making me think that it cannot handle the user's Documents folder being on OneDrive storage as opposed to local.

Everything they recommend boils down to "use a local account or, if using a Microsoft Account, have it unlinked from OneDrive." Since neither my Win11 or Win10 laptops use OneDrive as the primary library storage for Documents, Music, etc., that would explain why there are no hitches on either of those.
 
Everything they recommend boils down to "use a local account or, if using a Microsoft Account, have it unlinked from OneDrive." Since neither my Win11 or Win10 laptops use OneDrive as the primary library storage for Documents, Music, etc., that would explain why there are no hitches on either of those.

Hhmm...good find. Guess it can only look at %USERPROFILE%\DOCUMENTS....and can't handle anything else before documents. Wonder if you create that folder again under C:\Users\<username>\.....just create another Documents folder for it to plop it's stuff in. May satisfy it.Realizing of course....the relocated original Documents folder now lives under the OneDrive folder under the users profile...and won't see it..but...just for giggles.
 
I love how vendors say stuff like this with a straight face. They are the same ones that say "We recommend disabling the firewall", or "We require the user have administrator access to the PC". :rolleyes:

I don't think so. Most residential users (and that's what this client is) have more than the 5GB free limit for non-M365-associated Microsoft Accounts. They also tend to have system drives that can handle anywhere from 512GB on up the range.

It makes way more sense for them to store their files locally and back them up if they have no intention of using M365, and a great many do not. I have suggested to this client that when she nukes and paves the machine that she pay particular attention to this dialog during OOBE:
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But I will agree it's ridiculous if the reason is because they can't handle files being stored on OneDrive. But it's not ridiculous, in any way, to presume that a great many users will be better served by local storage than cloud storage when they don't have access to sufficient cloud storage.
 
Hhmm...good find.

I don't know what the actual hitch is, but I do know that this client is not well served by using OneDrive anyway. She is not going to become an M365 user, and the amount of OneDrive storage that comes with a standard Microsoft Account, 5GB, is woefully inadequate for most home users.

She'll be fine with a machine set up like mine is, with a Microsoft account linked Windows user account, but where the choice to store locally (like we did for many decades - yes, it works - particularly if you back it up) is made during setup.

The residential market is never going "full cloud," at least not in my lifetime, unless way more storage starts being offered at no cost.
 
Yeah, just shocks me that software developers ...these days, don't consider that. With the proliferation of "cloud storage" these days, there's a larger percentage of home users that have their Documents folder redirected into a cloud folder...be it OneDrive, or DropBox, or Box/BoxDrive, ...there's a lot.
They (the SolarFix people) gotta work on that link path. (if this is actually the cause).
 
Yeah, just shocks me that software developers ...these days, don't consider that.

Well, it does me, too, if we're talking new software. I believe the version we're dealing with was last under major development early in the Win10 era. It's another case where they've been working on "a complete rewrite" that's hopelessly behind schedule.

They're trying to squeek by "with what we have now" and keep promising the appearance of the new version. And, if nothing else, the client I worked with has been promised a free upgrade to that new version when it is released (which is supposed to happen this year).

She was a far more sophisticated end user than I typically deal with. She'd done a reset on her Windows 11 laptop, had done uninstall/reinstall for the misbehaving program, had obtained the immediately prior version of the program (and engaged in a lengthy back and forth with the company's tech support folks) to install and found it worked perfectly.

It was what I found this morning, supplying the company with the app crash info, and verifying that I had zero issue installing and running on both a Win10 and Win11 machine that uses only local storage for default libraries that finally "shook the tree" enough to get this:
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There are few things that can cause this here is a list of things to Check.

First make sure please if you have Windows r 11 you have all current Windows updates

That your account has Administrative Privileges


Un install Solar Fire
Restart your PC



Turn off your anti virus program and Windows defender while you install Solar Fire you can turn it back on
once Solar Fire is up and running



Re install Solar Fire


If you still have problems you may have connected to the cloud or One Drive

You must disable One Drive or the Cloud OR Create a New Local User

If turning off ondrive doesn't quite work. You have to tell it not to backup or sync the documents folder automatically first, which is hard to find. The easiest thing to do is to go into apps and completely uninstall onedrive.
We suggest uninstalling one drive. Then uninstall solar file saying no I don't want to keep anything.
Then change the entire computer to uk english not just the keyboard. If The PC is not in English
Then install Solar Fire.


Directions Below To Unsync instead of Un installing ONeDrive

Some Solar Fire users are having issues with file paths because of changes in how Microsoft One Drive syncs the Documents folder where Solar Fire keeps its files.

Solar Fire wants to look in c:\users\yourname\documents\solar fire user files. However, One Drive tries to move things to c:\users\yourname\documents\onedrive\solarfireuserfiles... which Solar Fire can't use.

The solution is to turn off One Drive's syncing of the Documents folder inside of the One Drive app or to uninstall or disable One Drive all together.

Next, it's necessary to redo the settings, so you need to uninstall Solar Fire and say 'no I don't want to keep my files and settings' and then to reinstall Solar Fire again.

This Microsoft link talks about syncing. You want to get to the 'sync files' page (shown below) and uncheck 'sync all files' and uncheck 'documents'.

https://support.office.com/en-us/ar...-windows-615391c4-2bd3-4aae-a42a-858262e42a49

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Look for quick access in the windows file explorer and if you see it disable the documents folder from quick access.

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It was immediately obvious to me that the issue lay with the fact that things were set up with OneDrive being used for the default Windows libraries. And in this case, the client would never have had enough space with just 5GB for that to work over the long term.

At present, she's planning to do a completely clean reinstall of Win11 using freshly created media, and be certain NOT to have OneDrive involved from the outset. It's the appropriate solution for her.
 
Most residential users (and that's what this client is) have more than the 5GB free limit for non-M365-associated Microsoft Accounts
The free OneDrive can still be useful though, say for just the Documents folder, or for files put into it manually. OneDrive can still be used and the Backup feature doesn't need to be turned on, or it allows selecting just Documents for backup. Some of my customers use it just for Documents.
 
The free OneDrive can still be useful though

Oh, absolutely. I use it for a few odd things myself, but generally have most of the "stuff I want in the cloud" on Google Drive.

I just don't want OneDrive to be designated as primary storage for your average non-M365 guy/gal on the street for all of the traditional Windows libraries.
 
This reminds me of a problem with Canon printer drivers. I have a client who is AzureAD...Entra...Identity joined. You cannot install the Canon printer drivers on an AzureAD account. It will error out. Have to make a local admin account and install it there.
 
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