Why we won't bid on any more Thumbtack jobs

shamrin

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Thumbtack offers a kind of reverse blind auction for service providers. Prospects, consumers with computer problems, enter information about the nature of their computer problem, subscribing service providers are then offered via email or text, the opportunity to bid on the project, paying Thumbtack a fee of about $3-$5. Our initial take on this was that a $3 (or even $5) customer acquisition cost was probably not that bad when compared to some of our other advertising. And, on say a $100 repair, again 5% of that job going to customer acquisition still doesn't sound that bad. That thinking was wrong as is the overall Thumbtack business model.

First, the real customer acquisition cost is the total cost of all your bids, including losing ones divided by the number of winning bids. So let's say you're really good at this and are winning 25% of your bids at $3 each, that's a $12 acquisition cost. If you're not lucky and getting 10% of the jobs you're bidding on, then your cost is $30 per customer.

Next, you can't improve your odds by learning about the marketplace - there is no feedback. If you don't win a bid, you don't know who did, you don't know how much they bid, you don't know how timing came into play (more on that in a minute), and you don't know anything about the customer's decision process. If you're surviving in the computer repair business, you know that you have to learn most lessons the hard way, try, fail, learn, try again until you get it right. Sealed bid blind auctions mean you learn nothing from your mistakes.

Finally, there are cases where you bid but you never had a chance at the business because the customer made their decision and awarded the job before you even placed your bid. We had just such a case this week where we bid on a job 45 minutes after the customer requested bids. Someone else was quicker and bid 15 minutes after the job came online and got the business 15 minutes later. By the time we bid on the project, our competitor already was working on it. Thumbtack considers refunding your payment in this case a one-time exceptional courtesy - and they'll only do that if you know about it (which you probably won't) and you ask for it. Now, you might be able to come up with a strategy to increase your odds by only bidding jobs that you can answer within minutes of it coming on line, but gaming an auction system, like last second eBay bidders, isn't a business model that we would like to pursue.

tl;dr After experimenting with Thumbtack for several months, the lack of transparency and the hidden accumulating costs of bidding on Thumbtack jobs makes them a poor and expensive source for leads in our opinion.
 
Interesting insight, thanks.
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First, the real customer acquisition cost is the total cost of all your bids, including losing ones divided by the number of winning bids. So let's say you're really good at this and are winning 25% of your bids at $3 each, that's a $12 acquisition cost. If you're not lucky and getting 10% of the jobs you're bidding on, then your cost is $30 per customer.
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The real customer acquisition cost should also include the time you spend/invest/waste reading requests and making quotes. (which you could be spending on other ways to advertise your business)

I don't like the idea of paying to give a quote, even when you don't get the job. It gives Thumbtack the incentive to maximise income by generating lots of requests for quotes, possibly even fake requests.
 
It gives Thumbtack the incentive to maximise income by generating lots of requests for quotes, possibly even fake requests.

Not just thumbtack but your competitors as well. Imagine there are 10 shops bidding for thumbtack jobs in your area. One shop gets tired of losing bids and decides to eliminate his competitors. He creates or has friends create fake RFQs that he knows not to bid on. His competitors don't have this same insider knowledge and bid on these fake jobs over and over, of course never winning them but costing them a ton of money. Yet when a job comes through that he knows he didn't generate then he knows to bid (of course hoping someone else didn't create a fake job). So essentially the whole system is rigged.

The same hold true for feedback. A pizza tech could easily game fake reviews by creating fake profiles to enter fake RFQs and and award bids to his company. He waits a day or two and drops glowing feedback on his company profile. His business moves up in trust and views generated solely by fake RFQs and glowing reviews.

This whole thumbtack idea is flawed top to bottom.
 
I don't get that much business from them; I buy blocks of credits for something like 1.50 ea., and each quote that I submit for the leads that they provide me uses 1-2 credits.

I haven't tried bidding on services/jobs yet. Sounds like you have to be the first one out of the gate, as people are always in a hurry for an answer.
 
I signed up with them briefly, and then deleted the account. There were several jobs to bid on, but once I recognized the business model I bailed. Never heard anything good about them since.
 
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