14 lattitude bad keyboard

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Some of the keys did not work easy fix I thought ordered a new keyboard same thing I thought maybe new keyboard is defective but it does it on the same keys there are about 12 that do not work I tool it off again cleaned all contacts same thing
this is the first time it has happened, new keyboard always fixed the problem
it must be a fault in the MB
USB keyboard works but then it always would
 
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Sounds like ithe mb connector for the keyboard or the motherboard itself, doesn't it? Are all of the keys that don't work in close proximity to each other? Any sign of a liquid spill?

Give the ribbon cable connector a good clean with a small toothbrush and alcohol. If no improvement, I'd call it. You can price a motherboard just for fun, but folks rarely are willing to pay for that these days.
 
it must be a fault in the MB
Hard to say but that would be my first guess. I had a similar problem with an ASUS VivoBook where after a liquid spill a cluster/diagonal of keys didn't work. Changed palmrest+keyboard assembly and no change. Changed motherboard and the very same keys still didn't work! Gave up and refunded the customer for the cost of everything.
 
That sucks. Hopefully the customer appreciated everything.
Thanks. I don't know if he did or not -- he didn't even acknowledge receiving the refund. Luckily, I was able to resell the palmrest+keyboard for almost what I paid for it (it wasn't returnable to the original seller). Since I haven't heard back from the person who bought it, I would assume that it was the motherboard that was at fault, both the original and the replacement. The motherboard was returned for a full refund.
 
Some of the keys did work easy fix I thought ordered a new keyboard same thing I thought maybe new keyboard is defective but it does it on the same keys there are about 12 that do not work I tool it off again cleaned all contacts same thing
First, did you if the problem disappears when testing with an external USB keyboard, to make sure that the problem is hardware and only concerns the native keyboard?

Second, is your keyboard connected through a ribbon or not?
Ancient 14" DELL Latitude (like Dell E6400, E6410, E6420, a.s.o.) where not using ribbons. More recent models may be connected through ribbons.

Third, is your "new" keyboard really new, or a an untested second hand one, which is possibly defective?

Fourth, what about the seller reliability?
Sometimes, sellers think that a laptop model is compatible, but it is not because the pinout is different, despite the keyboard has same form factor. Try to check if other sellers are more restrictive in models compatibility.

In case your keyboard is using a ribbon / flex cable:

- If for both the old and the new keyboard you have been using the same ribbon, first think I would do is to perform a conductivity check on all stripes of the ribbon. If your multimeter hasthe continuity check feature, your probes at each extremity of each wire in the ribbon and see if the multimeter beeps.

- If you have been using different ribbons, with a thin toothbrush clean the ribbon socket on both sides, i.e. at rear and also inside.
After a minor liquid damage (due to a rainy weather), I have seen vertdigris migrating from the rear to the inside of a ribbon socket.
Even a small deposit that contacts two ribbon tracks, or that prevent good contact of a track with the socket can generate stange failures.

- Then, I would welder again all contact points at the rear of the socket, preferably with leaded solder, which is more ductile and easier to work.

- You can also check that your ribbon is sufficiently pinched at both ends. If necessary, add some thin adhesive to make it a little thicker.

- Unplug the touchpad for your tests, or plug another touchpad. Often the keyboard and the touchpad work "together". A defective touchpad may result in had to diagnose keyboard behavior..

- Under a macroscope, carefully check if the motherboard has some vertdigris. Check both sides.
Clean it, both sides, with a thin toolbrush and isopropyl alcohol (isopropanol).

- Lastly, you could perform continuity checks using a multimeter on components (e.g. capacitors) near to the keyboard socket.

Hope this helps.
 
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