Is Windows the Best ?

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Is Windows a superior operating system than Linux. UNIX, or any other, most of the internet servers are Unix

I know the registry makes it very powerful but also very easy to hack.

Munich (Germany) tried for many years and great expense to free itself from the M$ yoke using Linux but did not succeed.
Balmer offered it free to them, so as not to set the trend

If Microsoft had not come on the horizon maybe we would all be using Mac’s in my view it would be far worse, but I don’t think it could be scaled enough for big business.
What are your thoughts
 
Windows makes me a lot more money than Mac or Linux.
For the general public, Windoze has a nice flavour and looks pretty.
Its easy to screw up for end users too - which brings me back to making money.....

I'm kind of glad "the backend" is Unix based. I wouldnt be too comfortable with Windows or Mac doing it.
 
Windows is the best in as far as compatibility and support but there are so many measures of "best". Linux is "best" at many things and serving as the backend for most of the Internet is another one of its "bests".
 
"Best" is subjective, this is a dead horse that's been beaten so hard all that's left is some barely recognizable constituent particles.
 
"Best" is subjective, this is a dead horse that's been beaten so hard all that's left is some barely recognizable constituent particles.

Amen! In one online group I moderate, I intentionally included the following rule for just this reason:

Please avoid, “What is the best . . .?,” topics, because what qualifies as “best” is entirely subjective. If you know you have specific needs then asking, “What {insert program type here} has the following features . . .,” is much more descriptive. If you want to know what programs people like for a specific task, asking, “What’s your favorite . . . and why?,” is far more likely to get you the details you want to have.

There is no such thing as the best, except at the individual and personal level. One man's crap is another man's treasure, and vice versa.
 
I used the wrong adjective Best, this is meant to be a nostalgia post and what could have been
I remember having an Apple 2 and buying a Z80 card to run CP/M and being told by every one CP/m is going to be the one and only.
 
And we all know how often tech geeks' declarations about what will be "the one and only" and what the marketplace decides being at distinct odds.

I will admit that I thought that the WWW was going to be a passing fancy way back when. In the list of "things I've been wrong about" this one is at the very top of the list when it comes to computing. My participation here is demonstrable proof of that.
 
Aside from "Best for what?"...

...we focus on business clients. The business world of computers/software has to have a wide "compatibility"..something supportable.
Most of the SMB world runs on Microsoft products. Line of business software designed to run on Windows platforms. Most business owners what the popular software that most other similar businesses run on, and that requires Windows!

I've been in this game for coming up on 30 years. I gotta say, computers are a heck of a lot more stable now, than business networks were like in the Windows 3 or Windows 95 days....with frequent reboots, frequent formatting/reinstalling, etc.

Now we have computers that..well, they can run for months..heck..years...without needing a reboot like they did 20+ years ago.

Starting with Windows XP service pack 2...Microsoft really started to tighten up Windows as far as being so exploitable by viruses. These days actual "viruses" are hardly around, now it's more malware ..but programs, plugins, brought in by end users. And the phishing/hacking, and ransomware....all of which don't care what platform you run on, Microsoft, *nix, Apple, whatever.
 
And we all know how often tech geeks' declarations about what will be "the one and only" and what the marketplace decides being at distinct odds.

I will admit that I thought that the WWW was going to be a passing fancy way back when. In the list of "things I've been wrong about" this one is at the very top of the list when it comes to computing. My participation here is demonstrable proof of that.

I have to admit, in a previous life when I was Vice President of Engineering for a very 'well known' corporation - ENRON, I remember doing a presentation to the other corporate execs on the future of telecommunications. I remember doing a Power Point of the upcoming technologies and the technologies that would not last. I remember making the statement that the 'World Wide Web" was just a flash in the pan - it was not sustainable with the current technology. That was around 1989-91.

Anyone else want to use me as a technology predictor - I work cheap.:p
 
Windows are the best ATM, because all one can fekn do is look out of them.
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Well it depends, I use Linux a lot and know how to code and get my way around the OS. Though for the average user it would be a bit of a learning curve. As some ppl would have no Idea as to what the CMD line is let alone how to implement it. I have a few retirement villages I manage, now some old tech guru has been advising ppl from 7 > Mint.

Yea All well and good, but are they going to know WTF to do? NO.

So Yes Linux is awesome, if one has an understanding but windows 10 is fine as well. When I sell systems I give client a crash course into how it works and how to operate certain apps.
 
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That is a fascinating read, particularly because I've been on both sides of that argument. There are times when having a common configuration database with consistent tools makes the platform easier to manage, and there are others when discrete configuration files made the platform easier to manage.

The sliding scale between the two options for me depends on the complexity of the platform. And it's interesting because that's exactly how my *nix vs Windows stuff is deployed. Highly specialized systems get *nix, general purpose platforms are Windows.

Windows manages complexity better than *nix does. But, *nix once deployed is forever, because stable and simple.

And I hadn't considered that design choice actually revolved around the registry itself, so thanks for the link. And now I want a Linux distro that has a registry... Oh wait, we have SystemD now... *ugh*

So I guess now the next *nix person that complains about the registry I can shutdown with the overly complex stupidity that is SystemD. Because seriously, building a service just to run a script on startup? Really?!?
 
That is a fascinating read, particularly because I've been on both sides of that argument. There are times when having a common configuration database with consistent tools makes the platform easier to manage, and there are others when discrete configuration files made the platform easier to manage.

The sliding scale between the two options for me depends on the complexity of the platform. And it's interesting because that's exactly how my *nix vs Windows stuff is deployed. Highly specialized systems get *nix, general purpose platforms are Windows.

Windows manages complexity better than *nix does. But, *nix once deployed is forever, because stable and simple.

And I hadn't considered that design choice actually revolved around the registry itself, so thanks for the link. And now I want a Linux distro that has a registry... Oh wait, we have SystemD now... *ugh*

So I guess now the next *nix person that complains about the registry I can shutdown with the overly complex stupidity that is SystemD. Because seriously, building a service just to run a script on startup? Really?!?

Although not directly related to the registry per se, but the current state of Windows controls is an interesting point where Windows is half baked and for once it looks as if Linux is rather civilized. Microsoft was hard at work (hint: when they feel like it) to change all the controls from Control Panel to the new "Settings" app, that many settings that once were simple and easy to find, have been made a convoluted mess.

This is what happens when a new "vision" hits a company and they run with it too far.

Moving from DOS to NT Kernel? Good move.
Moving from Windows 7 interface to 8/10? Might lose your shirt on that one.

The only reason that people haven't revolted en mass is because...hahahahaha.......there is nowhere else to go! People are creatures of comfort, so Microsoft is here to stay in all it's ADHD glory.

The other things that affects our vision of the past is that back then there were so many choices. Today you don't have that vision, there is no money to fund massive OS projects, many started and tried to bring back the old days like C64 etc. Those have all but faded into history, the logos and trademarks being eaten up by one corporation after another hoping to cash in.

It reminds me of that Stallone movie about a post apocalyptic future where is frozen for years and gets thawed out...they mention the only fast food restaurant to survive was Taco Bell. Well, we have Microsoft (Krispy Creme) and we have Apple (Starbucks) and Linux (Insert local diner or coffee shack). Everyone else didn't make it.

Retro is fun, cool and occasionally educational, but hardly a substitute for today's standards. It would be like bringing back the Steam engine. It's cool, it's fun, certainly educational, but don't expect everyone to flock to the technology.
 
@NviGate Systems The only reason we have Powershell, instead of an improved Command Shell is because Microsoft rewards new features over improvements to old ones internally.

We have the current schizophrenic mess in settings vs control panel for the very same reasons...
 
For me its not a matter if Windows is superior to other OS or not. It boils down to compatibility for business users

If you have an application that will only run on Windows (some even run on specific Windows version) then you don't really have a choice which OS to use. I'm sure you can emulate Windows on MAC etc but for business it more economical just to stick with Windows and not emulate.

Most application develop the apps first in Windows. Just take a look at Solarwind MSP (used to be GFIMAX), more features are available on Windows than MAC. Needless to say if your using Solarwind MSP you might be more profitable if your users are using Windows.

The bottom line is and supply and demand. If you want to be more profitable, then support the OS that is mostly use by your users.
 
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