Quickbooks 2009 backup with Fab's autobackup activates but won't register

[Sky-Knight]

So let's see...

QB Online for $1200 / year
Wave for $170 / year
Square is "free" for basic needs assuming you're OK with their near predatory merchant processing rates.
Bench.co is even MORE money, $3,600 a year. But has API hooks and the ability to automate yourself out of the need to do accounting.
And then there's Xero, which honestly is angling to eat Intuit's lunch.

For me? I'm going with H&R Block "Wave".

But honestly, if the SMB is too broke to afford $100 / month... they're too poor to exist. QB isn't expensive.

 

[ThatPlace928]

So let's see...

QB Online for $1200 / year
Wave for $170 / year
Square is "free" for basic needs assuming you're OK with their near predatory merchant processing rates.
Bench.co is even MORE money, $3,600 a year. But has API hooks and the ability to automate yourself out of the need to do accounting.
And then there's Xero, which honestly is angling to eat Intuit's lunch.

For me? I'm going with H&R Block "Wave".

But honestly, if the SMB is too broke to afford $100 / month... they're too poor to exist. QB isn't expensive.

Do you use Wave and, if so, do you like it? It's one on my list I'm considering for my one and only bookkeeping client.

 

[Sky-Knight]

Do you use Wave and, if so, do you like it? It's one on my list I'm considering for my one and only bookkeeping client.

We're not fully converted yet, but so far so good. Fiscal 2025 will be in there going forward, but January has been silly busy and QB 2017 is still working. IE... I'm being lazy about it.

It's definitely different, things are just off relative to being used to Quickbooks.

 

[ThatPlace928]

We're not fully converted yet, but so far so good. Fiscal 2025 will be in there going forward, but January has been silly busy and QB 2017 is still working. IE... I'm being lazy about it.

It's definitely different, things are just off relative to being used to Quickbooks.

I may talk to my client about trying Wave. Every year QB increases his subscription rate and he's paying over $600 renewal for a single user. To me, that's ridiculous.

 

[Sky-Knight]

I may talk to my client about trying Wave. Every year QB increases his subscription rate and he's paying over $600 renewal for a single user. To me, that's ridiculous.

Against the annual time to learn something new? That's peanuts. BUT... at the same time... Intuit has delivered what value to justify the subscription?

They continue to have security issues.
They continue to not make the software better.
They continue to have support issues.

The $600 is nothing, but when it's up against a company that enjoys near monopoly level control while constantly handing us garbage? Yeah... doesn't feel good.

It's the charging / company AND / user thing that drives me up a wall.

 

[ThatPlace928]

Against the annual time to learn something new? That's peanuts. BUT... at the same time... Intuit has delivered what value to justify the subscription?

They continue to have security issues.
They continue to not make the software better.
They continue to have support issues.

The $600 is nothing, but when it's up against a company that enjoys near monopoly level control while constantly handing us garbage? Yeah... doesn't feel good.

It's the charging / company AND / user thing that drives me up a wall.

I agree 100%. My client was a couple days late renewing last year and they shut him down. Just goes to prove they can remove access to your books anytime and leave you with no way to get to your info. It's why I appreciate having the desktop version. It's under my control, no one else's.

 

[Sky-Knight]

I agree 100%. My client was a couple days late renewing last year and they shut him down. Just goes to prove they can remove access to your books anytime and leave you with no way to get to your info. It's why I appreciate having the desktop version. It's under my control, no one else's.

That's true of any subscription based service.
The desktop software is also capable of this now, because it too is also subscription fed.

And the idea that we can keep ancient software around forever and expect it to work, especially for something as mission critical as financials isn't terribly rational either.

It's a multifaceted issue, and typically these issues have more to do with a lack of technical or business leadership than it does budget.

 

[ThatPlace928]

That's true of any subscription based service.
The desktop software is also capable of this now, because it too is also subscription fed.

And the idea that we can keep ancient software around forever and expect it to work, especially for something as mission critical as financials isn't terribly rational either.

It's a multifaceted issue, and typically these issues have more to do with a lack of technical or business leadership than it does budget.

No, I don't expect it to last forever but, for me, I'll use it until I can't. I can, however, use it on Windows 11 or 10 so I can always keep a PC on one of those operating systems just for QB.

My desktop version is solely desktop. I decline the updates, when it bugs me for them. Even if I accepted them, they would fail anyway.

Believe it or not, I have a client who has a tower with Windows XP on it for the sole purpose of using her bookkeeping software that sunset about 15 years ago. She doesn't connect to the Internet with it, ever.

 

[Sky-Knight]

No, I don't expect it to last forever but, for me, I'll use it until I can't. I can, however, use it on Windows 11 or 10 so I can always keep a PC on one of those operating systems just for QB.

My desktop version is solely desktop. I decline the updates, when it bugs me for them. Even if I accepted them, they would fail anyway.

Believe it or not, I have a client who has a tower with Windows XP on it for the sole purpose of using her bookkeeping software that sunset about 15 years ago. She doesn't connect to the Internet with it, ever.

Yeah, and when it breaks she's SOL with no parts, no support, and no pathway out.

You don't want to know how many HVAC systems are here in Phoenix that I've swapped into VMs in VirtualBox on top of WIn10/11... getting that RS232 interface to work isn't ever... fun...

But that's practically every high rise downtown!

I get keeping things around, but there's a cost, and that cost has an annoying tendency to become a bomb that destroys lives. And I'm not even being hyperbolic about it, I've lost count of the bankruptcies!

 

[ThatPlace928]

Yeah, and when it breaks she's SOL with no parts, no support, and no pathway out.

You don't want to know how many HVAC systems are here in Phoenix that I've swapped into VMs in VirtualBox on top of WIn10/11... getting that RS232 interface to work isn't ever... fun...

But that's practically every high rise downtown!

I get keeping things around, but there's a cost, and that cost has an annoying tendency to become a bomb that destroys lives. And I'm not even being hyperbolic about it, I've lost count of the bankruptcies!

She's pretty stubborn about changing software and I totally get it. So far, it's working for her and I haven't heard of any issues with her tower or operating system.

As for my bookkeeping client, I'll find him something he can live with that works and doesn't cost a small fortune.

My QB version will probably outlive me so I'll stick with it... for now.