Two mainboard failures on a Compaq Presario F700 laptop

Karlin High

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A client brought in a Compaq Presario F700 laptop that would no longer boot. The client thought it seemed to be video-related, beginning with the screen no longer coming on but still working with an external monitor. Then it began endlessly rebooting itself, and finally wouldn't power up at all. The only sign of life was the charging indicator light. I re-seated everything that was removable in every combination I could think of. Nothing, nothing.

I've read about this problem being related to the Nvidia GPU chip, and various methods for re-flowing its solder. Cardboard templates, aluminum foil, heat lamps, meat thermometers - ugh. I don't imagine that turning out well for my client.

I'm not an electrical engineer and a beginner at soldering, so I diagnosed "dead mainboard." The client chose to have the mainboard replaced, so I bought one (listed as "new") from a laptop parts supplier. I moved the CPU and cooling system from the old board. The CPU got some Arctic Silver 5 thermal grease, per Arctic Silver's instructions. The GPU cooler had a rubber or silicone pad; it looked like it would no longer make contact with the GPU if I removed the pad, so I left the pad on the cooler and put it in place like it was on the old board.

After re-assembly, the computer booted up OK. I ran the "cpuburn" utility to test my thermal grease job; the performance & benchmark utility in Partition Magic showed temps in the 60's C. That's cooler than my Dell at home, so I figured it was OK, and couldn't find any specs to the contrary.

Now, about two and a half days later, my client called and said it's having the same problems as before. Happily, my replacement mainboard is still under warranty.

Does anyone have any other ideas for this problem? Should I go get the cardboard template, aluminum foil, and heat lamp?
 
I have seen this happen before. Are you positive it was a new motherboard. I have bought a few "NEW" motherboards that turned out being pulls.

The HP/Compaq problem just happens. There is no true way to fix it. The new motherboard will die just like the old one did. Its just hard to say when. I did a re-flow on an HP tablet almost a year ago and its still running. Then again I have done it on other systems and it barley lasts an hour.

The thing is these notebooks are getting older and there parts are getting harder to find. More and more I find myself recommending a new notebook rather then fixing it.
 
I have to agree with recommending a replacement laptop. Once you start dealing with replacing you motherboards, it changes the dynamic to something that might not be easy to work yourself out of a hole where you have to eat parts. Ive replaced some defective video cards from laptops (removable GPUs), but that is about as far as that goes.
 
Thanks, everyone. Where I live, people prefer to keep old things running rather than replacing them at the first sign of trouble. I wonder what percentage of the population here drives "prior salvage" vehicles...

But I really do think the $485 USD Toshiba Satellite I have for sale would be a better deal for them than having another go at replacing the mainboard.
 
Is the customer using the laptop in a way that blocks the air flow to the CPU/GPU?

Sometimes the air-flow is blocked by a buildup of dust mats inside the
laptops heatsink. Which happens TOO frequently.
The only way to remove it is to pull the heatsink out and
peel the dust mat off. Its like this on several models of laptop.
 
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