Windows 10 Upgrade and slow internet

[River Valley Computer]

Maybe we have too much time on our hands or we don't need so many coffee breaks.

The three of us were just having a continuing discussion on the pending Windows 10 upgrade for the masses.

We are in a somewhat of a technology deprived area - Arkansas. Most of the connections that our customers have around here are 1.5MB DSL, a few have a blazing 5MB DSL. What is going to happen when they are going to download a 1-3GB update from Micro$oft? This is not only true of our residential clients but also the majority of our MSPs and business customers. The is Suddenlink cable internet available but in very limited areas - they can get all the way up to 50MB.

We cannot determine from all the blogs out there about Windows 10 if there will be a ISO available for us service centers other that the evaluation ones.

Oh well - enough coffee - we need to get back to work

 

[OaksLabs]

That is a tricky question. If your business has cable internet, I'd suggest offering the upgrade as a service. The slow speeds and bad infrastructure result in dropped packets, which will make the process take longer (TCP/IP will resend dropped packets, don't worry!) but your customers can still get a "bad download" -- and trying to figure out if a failed upgrade is due to a bad download or other issues could be enough to make you crazy.

If your shop is on a DSL connection, a long shot fix might be a cashing proxy server. The hitch is that if the download is via HTTPS, the encryption would make the download look different every time and the proxy would do nothing for you -- but if it is plain HTTP then you could see a big boost because as soon as you have one copy of the data it would do all other upgrades from its cache and save you lots of time (although some initial config is required).

I'm not sure if it will be possible to upgrade via ISO. Thinking back to the 8.1 upgrade, it's not possible to upgrade that via ISO --it only worked through the live download.

 

[Porthos]

It is not the slow connections you have to worry about. It will download. It is data caps that are the issue.

But its also not like were getting a full OS build every month.

ISO's will be available. That has already been said. I am grabbing the the first available official ISO and upgrade computers for customers from it.

 

[Porthos]

I'm not sure if it will be possible to upgrade via ISO. Thinking back to the 8.1 upgrade, it's not possible to upgrade that via ISO --it only worked through the live download.

I have upgraded with the preview ISO from 7 and 8.

 

[Martyn]

Going to being interesting. I often get village computers that are extremely out of date. I just got one on a farm that had 8 on the and had to bring it back to the workshop to upgrade to 8.1.

 

[Porthos]

I have tested quite a bit. The one thing I have not tested is the reset/refresh yet.

 

[Porthos]

Going to being interesting. I often get village computers that are extremely out of date. I just got one on a farm that had 8 on the and had to bring it back to the workshop to upgrade to 8.1.

Location will be an issue as well as in your case lots of people ignored the 8.1 upgrade for various reasons.

I usually nuke those with my updated image unless there is a compelling reason not to.

 

[nlinecomputers]

ISOs will be available. They have also said that for the first time ever Windows 10 retail packages will NOT have DVDs. They will have flash drives. http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-10-usb-drives-can-now-be-pre-ordered-shipping-date-is-uncertain

 

[cypress]

Going to being interesting. I often get village computers that are extremely out of date. I just got one on a farm that had 8 on the and had to bring it back to the workshop to upgrade to 8.1.

Same here! Thank Goodness for my fast connection at home. Currently working on that.

I will be downloading the ISO once it has become official and will be doing all upgrades to Windows 10 In Shop. Clients have been asking me about alot lately. I have no intentions of doing any upgrade On Site.

@River Valley Computer if memory serves me right you have a pretty slow DSL connection in your shop?

 

[River Valley Computer]

Same here! Thank Goodness for my fast connection at home. Currently working on that.

@River Valley Computer if memory serves me right you have a pretty slow DSL connection in your shop?

Yep - you remember correctly. Our shop in Arkansas finally got upgraded from 1.5MB to 10MB (WOW - how high tech can we get?)

Actually I just hung up the phone with Suddenlink - they are offering 50MB/8MB here now for $84 including telephone. They are installing it next week. We will see if that improve our download times.

Our shop in Iowa has an 80MB cable.

 

[TechLady]

Going to being interesting. I often get village computers that are extremely out of date. I just got one on a farm that had 8 on the and had to bring it back to the workshop to upgrade to 8.1.

That's pretty much what I do if the only connection they have is horribly slow. As for what MS is going to offer after August, I'm with Jimbo..."don't know, don't care." MS keeps changing its story on what they are and aren't going to offer so whatever, I'll just find a way to deal when they finally decide.

 

[cypress]

Yep - you remember correctly. Our shop in Arkansas finally got upgraded from 1.5MB to 10MB (WOW - how high tech can we get?)

Actually I just hung up the phone with Suddenlink - they are offering 50MB/8MB here now for $84 including telephone. They are installing it next week. We will see if that improve our download times.

Our shop in Iowa has an 80MB cable.

Congrats on that! I know that will be much needed in your case. I currently get 60 download and 11mb up.