You better think twice about using Mozy Pro now

shamrin

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I've put quite a few customer into Mozy Pro as their online backup solution. Mozy home has worked great for me for years and it just does its job without a lot of problems. I find the interface for Mozy Pro a little overly complicated but again, it does the job. Recently, Mozy killed its affiliate program, and I think I might know why. Apparently they're coming after our customers.

I visited one of my clients this week who told me about a phone exchange and showed me an email exchange he had had with a representative from Mozy. The rep told him that they needed to "check out the operation of [his] computer to make sure it would accept a recovery if it was needed". This led to another "technician" logging-on remotely and reviewing his set up. Does this sound familiar? Well wait, it gets better.

The "technician" apparently went straight to the Windows Event Log and filtered for warnings and errors. "Look", he said, "Ooo, lots of problems here, you need professional support from us. And for only $150 and $30 a month (per machine?) we'll maintain your computer."

At first I thought that my customer was just the victim of one of those scams where the guys calls up saying he's from Microsoft and needs to check out your computer. But when the customer showed me emails that come from the real Mozy domain, I was gobsmacked.

It's hard to count all the reasons why this is disconcerting. Whether the top one is the scammy way they go through the event log, baselessly telling the customer he has lots of problems or whether it's the fact that they are trying to steal customers from the very people that introduced them into the account I don't know. Or maybe it's the opening lie that they need to check out the computer to make sure it can handle a recovery - what could that possibly mean? It's a lie to make a sales call.

I'm almost positive that there are other good backup companies out there that have some respect for partners, past and present - I'll definitely be looking for one to migrate my customers to. But it's a dog-eat-dog world out there folks so watch out.
 
So ... I'm only asking this because you didn't say you checked here.

But you know that emails can be duped .... what did the header information of the email say?
 
I hate to ask the obvious, but are you SURE it's from a Mozy rep? Have you talked to Mozy themselves about it?

This is so far over the top that, like you, I find it hard to believe that a reputable company would do it.
 
we've resold Mozy in the past.
I sent your story to Mozy's fraud and security people,(I removed your name, but I should have asked first).
I will let you know what their reponse is.
 
So ... I'm only asking this because you didn't say you checked here.

But you know that emails can be duped .... what did the header information of the email say?

No, I did not check the headers of the email, just the return address. It just wasn't possible to do that on customer site.

I hate to ask the obvious, but are you SURE it's from a Mozy rep? Have you talked to Mozy themselves about it?

This is so far over the top that, like you, I find it hard to believe that a reputable company would do it.

I spent about 5-10 minutes with my customer going over the materials he had. They included call-back numbers in the 801 area code (which checks out) and an email domain of mozypro.com to respond to. I started out telling my customer that he was the target of a scam but I was not able to unwind it to anything other than a Mozy-backed program.

we've resold Mozy in the past.
I sent your story to Mozy's fraud and security people,(I removed your name, but I should have asked first).
I will let you know what their reponse is.

I tried to contact James there on Friday but no callee-backee.
 
I hate to ask the obvious, but are you SURE it's from a Mozy rep? Have you talked to Mozy themselves about it?

This is so far over the top that, like you, I find it hard to believe that a reputable company would do it.

It isn't that far over the top. Avast has been involved in this type of thing in the past and has started again as of last year.
 
Here is the response from Mozy. I will definitely think twice before setting up a customer with them.

" Thank you for contacting Mozy support.

Mozy has partnered with a company called iTok to perform a concierge service where they can assist with third party issues not related to Mozy. If the customer chooses, they can authorize iTok to help with computer issues, virus cleanup, etc...

Please let me know if you have any additional questions and I will be glad to help.
 
It isn't that far over the top. Avast has been involved in this type of thing in the past and has started again as of last year.

That was iyogi not Avast. Their fault though for contracting with a company like that.
 
Here is the response from Mozy. I will definitely think twice before setting up a customer with them.

" Thank you for contacting Mozy support.

Mozy has partnered with a company called iTok to perform a concierge service where they can assist with third party issues not related to Mozy. If the customer chooses, they can authorize iTok to help with computer issues, virus cleanup, etc...

Please let me know if you have any additional questions and I will be glad to help.

Seems legit...

http://www.scambook.com/company/view/922/iTok
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/itok-utah-c343839.html
 
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shamrin - I'm curious, are you a Mozy reseller? Or do your clients have their own individual Mozy accounts?

The reason I ask is that we are a Mozy reseller and it has always been our policy to not use the client's email address when setting up new mozy users.

When users are created we use a clientnamemachinename at ourdomain.com email naming scheme with a default password.

After reading this thread I'm glad we have always done this now that I'm hearing of Mozy partnering up with Itok.

Thanks for bringing this to everyones attention.
 
shamrin - I'm curious, are you a Mozy reseller? Or do your clients have their own individual Mozy accounts?

The reason I ask is that we are a Mozy reseller and it has always been our policy to not use the client's email address when setting up new mozy users.

That sounds like a good idea. But I was an affiliate not a reseller so the customer had a direct relationship with Mozy.

Also, stay tuned. I've had a couple of conversations with Mozy today that lead me to believe they are concerned about what happened here as well. I'll report back what I learn.
 
Epilogue

I ended up having a conversation with someone at Mozy (I'll not use his name here because I didn't ask him if it was OK) who I believe spoke with authority about this issue. He made it very clear that Mozy's reseller customers were considered out of bounds for Mozy-facilitated sales contacts. He also said (former) affiliates were not directly targeted and that I should not expect further sales prospecting among the customers that I brought to Mozy. Apparently affiliate accounts were not filtered from Mozy's prospect list, I was given the impression that consideration would be given to how to do this now.

I did not pursue the rather dodgy way that it appears sales prospects are being approached, how Mozy and ITOK want to run their business is down to them not me.
 
Glad to hear they say they will work on it, but I don't like it happened in the first place.

Will be interesting to see how it turns out.
 
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