[REQUEST] Data Backup - Flash Drive or External SSD?

overkill NVMe for this.
Pretty much every NVMe is going to be overkill for this because you're limited by the USB bus speed. The reason why you'd go with this is because ASUS is a reputable company with a reputation to uphold and is subject to our laws, so they're incentivized not to make something that will blow up your SSD or set your house on fire. Do you really think these noname Chinese brands give a crap? If they get a bad name they'll just change names and if they get sued they're in another country so good luck getting justice. Buying from some noname Chinese company is worse than looking for a computer tech on Craigslist.
 
Until the knockoff piece of Chinese junk shorts out and kills your nice expensive Samsung NVMe SSD. Do yourself a favor and buy from a reputable brand that's subject to our laws:


Don't buy from weird off the wall Chinese companies.
I would love to have that encloser + Samsung 970 Evo?

But, it's a lot more expensive than just getting a Samsung T5.

Is the Sammy 970 massively more reliable than what's inside a T5?

Sure, it's faster, but it's beyond the speed I need as coming across a customer's machine w/ NVMe is super rare where I live.

Edit: doubt the T5 is shuckable.
 
I would love to have that encloser + Samsung 970 Evo?

But, it's a lot more expensive than just getting a Samsung T5.

Is the Sammy 970 massively more reliable than what's inside a T5?

Sure, it's faster, but it's beyond the speed I need as coming across a customer's machine w/ NVMe is super rare where I live.

Edit: doubt the T5 is shuckable.
The T5 is a great drive but it's just a Samsung mSATA SSD in their own enclosure. It's limited to SATA speeds which is truly undesirable if you're working with modern computers with USB 3.2. I personally own several T5's and a few WD equivalent (also mSATA drives) but if I were to buy an external SSD today I'd for sure buy this ASUS enclosure and a 970 EVO.

The T5 is definitely shuckable. In fact when mSATA first came out and there weren't any quality enclosures for them I bought a cheap T5 just to shuck it and use it as an adapter to connect mSATA drives. It just died a few months ago due to so many times of plugging and unplugging it (one if the pins was seriously jacked up). After all, it wasn't designed to be used like this.
 
The T5 is a great drive but it's just a Samsung mSATA SSD in their own enclosure. It's limited to SATA speeds which is truly undesirable if you're working with modern computers with USB 3.2. I personally own several T5's and a few WD equivalent (also mSATA drives) but if I were to buy an external SSD today I'd for sure buy this ASUS enclosure and a 970 EVO.

The T5 is definitely shuckable. In fact when mSATA first came out and there weren't any quality enclosures for them I bought a cheap T5 just to shuck it and use it as an adapter to connect mSATA drives. It just died a few months ago due to so many times of plugging and unplugging it (one if the pins was seriously jacked up). After all, it wasn't designed to be used like this.

Thanks for your expert input :)

I was thinking about getting the Asus enclosure + 2TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus, but the speeds are limited to about 1,250 MBps max (USB 3.2 spec), so what is the point when the drive itself is capable of nearly 3x that and this drive from Sandisk operates at up to 2,000 MBps and costs less (supports USB 3.2 Gen 2x2).
 
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USB ssd or spinning rust is ok for small data backups on site for not critical data, once back on the bench then a SATA connection to RAID 1 will do the job at high speed.
The rule is 3 copys on different media with one being off site !
Critical data depends on the customer and my view often differs, an example is of a mother and daughter and grandmother in different houses -
Grandmother thinks that all photos are important but is not pc literate, I back up them for her from daughter and granddaughterr as CD and VCD,
Daughter thinks that her wedding photos in an exotic location are not important since her divorce but cat stuff is.
Granddaughter has no idea how important the photos of her first child will be to her in years to come.

To keep a long stort short, these 3 have the backups of each other as their computers come to me prior to upgrades of the pc / kids, DVD player :)
Work on the other hand is not worried about data loss since either there are printouts or the data is not important as the CAD files can be re created if needed and archive paperwork is storred off site.
The PFY has everything backed up on OneDrive but does not know that I also have it backed up to Google Drive :)

Backup = Can be recovered if something goes wrong !
 
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"I wouldn't get an NVMe drive for this application. NVMe drives can use a lot of power. If you're backing up older machines their USB ports might be too weak to power NVMe drives. They can consume up to 10 watts, many older systems can't crank out that much power over USB."
 
"I wouldn't get an NVMe drive for this application. NVMe drives can use a lot of power. If you're backing up older machines their USB ports might be too weak to power NVMe drives. They can consume up to 10 watts, many older systems can't crank out that much power over USB."
Literally never experienced this. I just backed up an old 1st gen i5 Dell Optiplex desktop with USB 2.0 and I used my external NVMe SSD to do it.
 
I can't imagine any SSD, of any variety, needing more juice than an old-fashioned spinning HDD. Motors are hogs, relatively speaking.
USB 2.0 is rated at 500ma per port but the circuitry is designed to limit the current to 600ma, a quick look at the specs for the Samsung 970 EVO Plus gives a very surprising 7.8W !
7.8W divided by 5 volts = current = 1.56 Amps, or 3 usb 2.0 ports worth, not the answer that I was expecting !
 
USB 2.0 is rated at 500ma per port but the circuitry is designed to limit the current to 600ma, a quick look at the specs for the Samsung 970 EVO Plus gives a very surprising 7.8W !
7.8W divided by 5 volts = current = 1.56 Amps, or 3 usb 2.0 ports worth, not the answer that I was expecting !
"...with a USB 3.0, it can provide up to 900mA or 0.9A, which translates into 4.5 watts. These power output specifications are a rating based on the 5 volts from each standard output. However, the USB 3.0 dedicated charging and charging downstream ports provide up to 1,500 mA or 1.5A, which translates into 7.5 watts."
 
Well guys, I've been using a Samsung 960 Pro NVMe SSD in an external USB enclosure for years now with no issues and I've used it with old desktops and laptops with USB 2.0. Admittedly I've never tried it in a USB 1.1 or 1.0 port but that's only because I'm sure Windows 98 (the OS that would likely go with that age of hardware) wouldn't know what to do with it. I've never had a problem. I assume it's able to dynamically adjust its power requirements depending on what interface it's plugged in to, but I have no idea.
 
I suspect that because of the lower USB 2.0 transfer speed SSD's draw less current than at the higher speeds of 3.0 and 3.1 and is probably not an issue in the real world.
It was an eye opener to see the power requirements of an SSD that was presumed to draw naff all due to no motors !
 
I have decided to purchase a regular external SATA SSD. NVME speeds and the price premium are pointless at this time for me.

Now, should I get 1TB or 2TB? Most data I've ever backed up was about 500GB. That was a record, by far.

Should I go with Samsung or SanDisk?
 
This drive is just for migration of client data. Your not going to keep it long term. So speed, reasonable reliability, and cost are the most important factors. You’re going to use it until it dies, so don’t over invest. It’s disposable, (it WILL die someday) so it’s the cost of doing business. No offense but you’re overthinking it.
 
I'd definitely go for the 1TB, minimum, as that will cover the vast majority of circumstances, but still allows for the odd person who has significantly more data on their machine than is typical.
 
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