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And just having hit the big six oh this past Monday, I can relate!
 
Actually, Fords have become pretty reliable; I think...


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The F150 would not be the best selling truck in the United States, for decades, were it not reliable. We've had GMCs and Ford trucks in the household (and actually have one of each at the moment) and both have been very reliable vehicles.

I'm really curious to see how the fully electric F150, which will hit the streets quite soon, will do. Ford is way ahead of the game in electric pickups since they decided to take the existing F150 platform and rework it as electric while still producing internal combustion engine versions, too.
 
The F150 would not be the best selling truck in the United States, for decades, were it not reliable. We've had GMCs and Ford trucks in the household (and actually have one of each at the moment) and both have been very reliable vehicles.

I'm really curious to see how the fully electric F150, which will hit the streets quite soon, will do. Ford is way ahead of the game in electric pickups since they decided to take the existing F150 platform and rework it as electric while still producing internal combustion engine versions, too.
After looking at the Lightening specs I'm pretty sure the majority of the buyers will be suburban and urban cowboys. The stock model, no extra (expensive) features, has a range of around 230 miles and a charge time of around 20 hours. The gasoline entry level version has a range of just under 500 miles and you can refill in about 3-4 minutes. The Lightening starts at just under $40k while the gas version just over $30k.
 
Based on my now 60 years and a couple of days of life, I can say with assurance that most (not all, but most) pickup truck purchasers are not getting them as work trucks.

Where is that 20 hour figure from. It's not that I'm doubting you, but I am wondering if this is "slow charging" on home current without any high voltage charger. I can't imagine any electric vehicle these days would take anywhere near that long to charge on the fast chargers that are springing up like mushrooms in parking lots (at least around here, and I am not anywhere near to a major urban area).
 
Based on my now 60 years and a couple of days of life, I can say with assurance that most (not all, but most) pickup truck purchasers are not getting them as work trucks.

Where is that 20 hour figure from. It's not that I'm doubting you, but I am wondering if this is "slow charging" on home current without any high voltage charger. I can't imagine any electric vehicle these days would take anywhere near that long to charge on the fast chargers that are springing up like mushrooms in parking lots (at least around here, and I am not anywhere near to a major urban area).
No argument that the majority of buyers, volume wise, are not farmers, ranchers etc. When I was up on MA and going around there and neighboring states, pickups of all makes and models were popular. No such thing as a ranch and farm are nearly extinct.

20 hours? When I try to price things for comparison I try to use the same standard. Since I'm such a cheap thrifty person I don't get anything in the "blinky light" category. It appears the 20 hour kit comes standard with the Lightening. Got to scroll down a bit.

 
The stock model, no extra (expensive) features, has a range of around 230 miles and a charge time of around 20 hours. The gasoline entry level version has a range of just under 500 miles and you can refill in about 3-4 minutes.
Yeah, but not many people have a gas pump in their garage :D

There's a few things you need to look at differently. First, you don't have to go to the gas station and wait. You just plug in at night when you get home. As long as you haven't driven 230 miles that day and are at zero, that 20 hours isn't an issue.

I drive maybe 30 - 60 miles a day. I charge my car overnight on a 120V 15A outlet with the standard charger that came with the car. I always assumed I'd install a 240V 50A charger as soon as I got it. But here I am over a year later and it's never really been an issue.

Here's a good overview of charging EVs
 
Yeah, but not many people have a gas pump in their garage :D

There's a few things you need to look at differently. First, you don't have to go to the gas station and wait. You just plug in at night when you get home. As long as you haven't driven 230 miles that day and are at zero, that 20 hours isn't an issue.

I drive maybe 30 - 60 miles a day. I charge my car overnight on a 120V 15A outlet with the standard charger that came with the car. I always assumed I'd install a 240V 50A charger as soon as I got it. But here I am over a year later and it's never really been an issue.

Here's a good overview of charging EVs
Hey guys can we move this discussion to General Chat?
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