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Hmm, is that from Cisco to the people that pay for licensing or the customers to Cisco for the license prices, or both, lol.

It's from Cisco to their customers. Things like I work for a certain Governmental entity where we have paid no less than $400,000 in the past year on Cisco equipment AND SmartNET support, yet they like to claim we don't have support on every damned thing we have called in, and they put their foot down as if we somehow stole it. The only theft we did was spend tax dollars, which are all Government extortion.

At any rate each and every time we have to get our Cisco SE team involved, have to escalate it to some high-level manager etc. They seem hell bent on NOT providing support until it get to such a level I have to do posturing through or own internal Legal Counsel threatening to send back a quarter million dollars worth of equipment.

Suddenly, they fix stuff and we get support. All the while this usually takes two to three days even though we have an contract with guaranteed SLA of 2 hours.

If something fails, they want tons of documentation. They don't read their own notes. They demand logs, ask about network changes, etc. Yes, they DO eventually end up RMAing the equipment, but they ship it with some old IOS or Nexus OS. I go to download what we need and install it, and everything is fine until I check it and find it does NOT have the licensing for OSPF and BGP etc, which is exactly what we need.

They say, "don't worry you can use those features 30 days without a licence." I say, "Then what? My whole damned network goes down? I cannot deploy a ticking timebomb!." I demand the licensing. They insist it is a separate support issue requiring a separate ticket! I insist we paid maybe $20,000 for SmartNET on said device don't make me jump through bs hoops - this should already be done before I even get it!

At any rate, Cisco demands proof like a purchase order, but getting that is tough because I am in IT and generally don't deal with the money side any more than getting quotes and saying what to buy. I refer them to the show tech log, which indicatest he licence level of the previous device... It's not enough. We dig up what we need and send it...


Bottom line is Cisco's Customer Support sucks!
 
It's from Cisco to their customers. Things like I work for a certain Governmental entity where we have paid no less than $400,000 in the past year on Cisco equipment AND SmartNET support, yet they like to claim we don't have support on every damned thing we have called in, and they put their foot down as if we somehow stole it. The only theft we did was spend tax dollars, which are all Government extortion.

At any rate each and every time we have to get our Cisco SE team involved, have to escalate it to some high-level manager etc. They seem hell bent on NOT providing support until it get to such a level I have to do posturing through or own internal Legal Counsel threatening to send back a quarter million dollars worth of equipment.

Suddenly, they fix stuff and we get support. All the while this usually takes two to three days even though we have an contract with guaranteed SLA of 2 hours.

If something fails, they want tons of documentation. They don't read their own notes. They demand logs, ask about network changes, etc. Yes, they DO eventually end up RMAing the equipment, but they ship it with some old IOS or Nexus OS. I go to download what we need and install it, and everything is fine until I check it and find it does NOT have the licensing for OSPF and BGP etc, which is exactly what we need.

They say, "don't worry you can use those features 30 days without a licence." I say, "Then what? My whole damned network goes down? I cannot deploy a ticking timebomb!." I demand the licensing. They insist it is a separate support issue requiring a separate ticket! I insist we paid maybe $20,000 for SmartNET on said device don't make me jump through bs hoops - this should already be done before I even get it!

At any rate, Cisco demands proof like a purchase order, but getting that is tough because I am in IT and generally don't deal with the money side any more than getting quotes and saying what to buy. I refer them to the show tech log, which indicatest he licence level of the previous device... It's not enough. We dig up what we need and send it...


Bottom line is Cisco's Customer Support sucks!
Yikes, what a disaster. Do you have the option to move to a different vendor? For that kind of money they should be tripping over themselves trying to help you.
 
Yikes, what a disaster. Do you have the option to move to a different vendor? For that kind of money they should be tripping over themselves trying to help you.

The thing is they are NOT tripping over themselves for our business. They are very proud of their equipment $$$ too. It is sort of an arrogant attitude they have; that is the only way to describe it. They act like they are the only vendor in town.

Truth is for the ASR style Data Center Routers and network Cores, I prefer Cisco IOS-XE or IOS-XR type devices.

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Right now we cannot buy other vendors equipment because somebody who is NOT in IT decided purchasing Cisco is compulsory that they are the best. While I do not disagree it is top-notch stuff, it's price is a bit too high for my tastes much of the time. For example, we bought 48 port switches for about $11,000. They also misrepresented the licencing requirements to do what we want to do. Ended up selling us Catylyst 9300-48P-A's when the E's would suffice. The vast majority of my sites need nothing more than a static, default route, yet they sold us way too much licensing for most needs. The difference is $2000. Either way, $9000 is too much for a 48 port switch that can also route traffic.

The other vendor I used to buy a lot of when it was my choice is Brocade, who got rebranded Ruckus. This stuff is Foundry in that it is the FastIron platform. It is absolutely rock-solid supports VRF, static, dynamic routing, VLANs, Native VLANs, discovery protocols etc. For $2500 each they are a bargain.
 
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Yeah, it was a complete mess. Was there trouble shooting some guest room phones. This site had 2 DSLAM's which provided internet for the AP's and some of the POTS lines for the PBX. One guest room they added to the list after I arrived - "I tried calling them but they did not answer". So I go to the room and there is no phone in the room. LOL!!!

Of course the rack could not be moved and I could barely fit into the space around it, maybe 18" wide or so. Each entry and exit took a lot of time as I had to make sure I did not get tangled up in any of the wires and rip them out. If I had I'd still be there trying to figure out where they went.
 
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