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britechguy said:
Sorry, but I have to disagree with you there. The novel infectious vector is, literally, everywhere now, and things stagger as far as time of infection, being a contagious carrier, etc.

It would take a lot longer than 2 weeks.
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You're right at this stage it would take a month. Two weeks was plenty at outbreak though. But even two weeks isn't terribly possible. People need food, that food needs created, grown, processed and delivered. People need to be able to buy it. People need power, gas, water, all sorts of other things too.

And that kids is how we wind up with an "essential" industries list, with buckets of minimum wage earners out risking their lives while rich slobs sit on their butts at home complaining the world is over because they're "not important" anymore.
 
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This is really getting out hand in my area seems there are international visitors flying in from Europe and somehow getting around the quarantine and infecting people in my city with new UK variant and we had to go into lock down because of this.

They really need to throw in min 2 months jail time with the fines are just not enough.
 
Statistics rather like accounting are how you manipulate the figures :(
There has been a lot of news about blood clots and the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, however the number is actualy below that of not being given the vaccine , therefore the vaccine must lower the chance of getting a clot :)

In accounting flavour, you can work out what it costs to have a waist paper bin on the floor, apply the same formula to stock on the shelf and it goes horribly wrong :(

Covid is not going away unfortunatly :(

We here on the news things such as that there is a new variant that may be resistant to the vaccines, we also here that there is another varient that spreads faster, in reality the fast one will become the dominant strain that vaccines protect against. You get a mild case of the fast one due to vaccine protection and your natural antibodys then protect you against the rare one :)

Anyone that thinks the vaccine will alter their DNA needs to treat it as an opertunity :)
 
My governor announced on Twitter today that everyone in my county will be able to schedule appointments at the state pods starting Wednesday.

I was going to have to wait until May, but the J&J shot being a one and done deal is essentially doubling the available appointments and the county is reacting accordingly. No idea how long it will take to actually get my shot, but at least I can get my name on the list this week.
 
Things are really getting out of control here hospital is getting overwhelmed and we are getting many deaths here for such a small city only have one hospital my sisters coworker little 4 year old daughter has died from UK covid-19 variant.

The vaccine is taking too long to reach us to be of any use unless Trudeau and Ford does something soon many people will die.

My city is only in a partial lock down lots of non-essential businesses are still open lots of old age homes here have outbreaks and UK variant has gone wild here.

Lots of seniors still not vaccinated my high school music-english teacher died from covid-19 he was in his 90`s was also a long time customer.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/03/world/americas/argentina-president-coronavirus.html

Pfizer says vaccine could last 6 months.
Vaccine will prevent deaths but covid-19 will never go away same as the flu it is here to stay that means masks and social distancing will continue as will lock downs things can never go back to normal with this type of virus.

Many people think now that i am vaccinated things will go back to normal which is not the case you can still get covid-19 but the chance of dying is very small and you can still spread it as well that means you still need to wear a mask and social distancing.
 
Russia's Sputnik V vaccine was proven problematic ages ago... But assuming it actually works as advertised, vaccines do not always prevent infection. This one data point is not only expected, it's so much so that this situation is classified as NORMAL.

There is nothing about Pfizer's vaccine only working for 6 months, there's plenty of data saying it's STILL EFFECTIVE six months later. As in, the longevity of the thing is still being tested.

Yes, we will get back to normal, relax.
 
Sky-Knight said:
Yes, we will get back to normal, relax.
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Of course we will. Even if the vaccines for Covid end up being like vaccines for things like tetanus, where booster shots are required, all that's necessary for "back to normal" is containing the spread. Herd immunity that would prevent the current spread patterns is entirely foreseeable in the near future.

And, you're right, in that there is no hard data that boosters will be necessary. The latest from the scientists is, "We don't know one way or another until enough time has passed so that data can be gathered on length and strength of reistance can be gathered." I can deal with that unknown, with ease.
 
Right? We've got much harder things to contend with than... oh noes... I have to see a doctor twice a year!

Heck, getting everyone into a doctor's office for a checkup and boosters twice a year would probably cause the single largest improvement to general health in human history.
 
And we also know, from decades of experience with vaccines that need boosters, that said boosters are "an insurance policy." A weakened immune response will still be mustered without them, but in order to ensure the most vigorous one you use boosters.

My biggest concern is mutations, but even those don't concern me as much as getting worldwide herd immunity established as early as possible. Many will be immune or resistant to multiple variations due to how their own immune systems work while others will not, but having baseline herd immunity is critical to stopping a pandemic.
 
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https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2...-dnt-tsr-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/coronavirus/

It depends on your immune system old frail people it will not last as long say someone in their 20`s.
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And who has claimed otherwise? It was your blanket statement, sans qualification and citation of any sort that is, per usual, dead wrong: "Vaccine will prevent deaths but covid-19 will never go away same as the flu it is here to stay that means masks and social distancing will continue as will lock downs things can never go back to normal with this type of virus."
 
And with the US closing in on effective herd immunity sometime this Summer, we'll start to see outbreaks slow and infection numbers fall. Somewhere in that mix, even if we need boosters, the mask requirement will be retired.

There's no point in giving in to despair at this stage, we're collectively basking in the light at the end of the tunnel now. But beware... another spike is coming! This junk is perfectly predicable now.
 
britechguy said:
And who has claimed otherwise? It was your blanket statement, sans qualification and citation of any sort that is, per usual, dead wrong: "Vaccine will prevent deaths but covid-19 will never go away same as the flu it is here to stay that means masks and social distancing will continue as will lock downs things can never go back to normal with this type of virus."
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Ask yourself how long has the flu been around and you have your answer it has never been wiped out with vaccines only causes numbers to dip never gets rid of it completely.

People with compromised immune systems will have to get 2 shots per year.
 
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Galdorf said:
Ask yourself how long has the flu been around and you have your answer it has never been wiped out with vaccines only causes numbers to dip never gets rid of it completely.
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And except for the very elderly or infirm it is a non issue. Once we get to herd immunity covid, even mutations will be much the same. And if we would mask up during the flu season it would be much less than the typical year.
 
Galdorf said:
Ask yourself how long has the flu been around and you have your answer it has never been wiped out with vaccines only causes numbers to dip never gets rid of it completely.
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And no one is saying that the Covid-19 vaccine is going to "get rid of it completely." It doesn't NEED to do that.

You will dodge every time you're called out on your own claims that are outlandish, and then try to make it appear that others have made claims that they have not. It ain't pretty.
 
What the worldwide vaccination program will do is to make it difficult for the virus to spread, there is only one virus that has been eliminated - Smallpox.
Despite everyone having the Polio vaccine there are still 3 countries that still have it, close to elimination but not there yet, and vaccination against it started around 1950.
There has been very little progress in eliminating flu, but this year I have not heard of any outbreaks, probbably due to the lockdowns and covid precautions in place working against it, the danger from this is next year folk may not bother with the flu jab :(

The difference between Polio and Flu / Covid is the transmission method, which Smallpox shares with with Covid & Flu, so there is hope of eventualy eliminating it :)
 
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