Would you take a Coronavirus Vaccine

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Beat me to it. THIS.

In a modern society where everyone thinks their opinion deserves to be heard nothing annoys me more than individuals who mistake their personal preferences for fact.
~ "TheCruyffGurn" in comments on The Guardian, 8/13/2014

It's also appalling that so many cannot seem to apply even the most fundamental critical thinking skills, starting with, "Consider the source." Then follow that with, "What is the most recently available information." The deaths in Norway were ruled out as attributable to the Covid-19 vaccine long ago. It certainly wasn't irresponsible to report on their potential connection when the initial reports were done, but trotting out those initial reports as though they have any validity after what has been found by unimpeachable sources, it's both stupid and repugnant.

If you really believe most blogs, Twitter, Instagram, 20th-tier press, and similar are in any way to be trusted then you have a lot to learn about choosing your sources. Talk about being led down the primrose path to destruction!
 
That California article is a prime example of misleading people just to sell a story. It basically boils down to...

"Somebody died hours after a vaccine"

There was absolutely nothing to suggest the vaccine played any part in the death. Even the article itself even contains the quote "They might have other things that are basically random, like they might get into a car accident.” Yet they run with a sensationalist headline making it sound as if the vaccine is killing people - because that sells more copies for them.

To nobody's surprise, 4 days later the coroners report ruled out COVID19 as a contributing factor.
 
You believe you know two people "who have died as a result" of the vaccine because that's what you want to believe. Until you can produce scanned copy of their death certificates or a single peer reviewed study that supports this it is, quite simply, not believable.
Better do some fact checking you do not know me or the people i also know therefore your argument is based on what you believe to be true and not what is actually true.
 
what you believe to be true

Which is actually supported by peer-reviewed research by experts in the field.

If I have to deal with any conjecture, and we all do at times, I know whose conjecture I'll trust when that must be done, and it sure as hell isn't yours.

You have made it abundantly clear that you are willfully ignorant, which is worse than stupidity or plain ignorance, both of which have the strong potential of being cured by exposure to facts. And not just on this topic.
 
proof there is a problem with AstraZeneca.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...have-halted-use-of-astrazenecas-covid-vaccine

And that is the vaccine my long time customer and college teacher had and ended up dying from a blood cot in the brain he hand no issues with blood clots or medical issues his son said during my phone call with him.

After the autopsy they found a highly unusual amount of blood clots in his organs and the corner listed his death as a complication of the vaccine he passed in his sleep his son said.

@britechguy i would like to see a scan of your MD diploma.
 
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The blood clots were a genuine cause for concern and many European counties did halt their rollout. Denmark, Norway, Germany, France and many more. However, the European Medicines Agency (EMA), World Health Organisation (WHO) and the UK's MHRA have since undertaken reviews and released statements to say AstraZeneca has no direct link to an increased likelihood of blood clots. The clots that did occur were in fact at a lower rate than would be expected to occur naturally in the same number of unvaccinated people.

All those initial countries have since resumed, or have plans to resume, their rollout of AstraZeneca. I expect given time Canada will come to the same conclusion.
 
proof there is a problem with AstraZeneca.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...have-halted-use-of-astrazenecas-covid-vaccine

And that is the vaccine my long time customer and college teacher had and ended up dying from a blood cot in the brain he hand no issues with blood clots or medical issues his son said during my phone call with him.

After the autopsy they found a highly unusual amount of blood clots in his organs and the corner listed his death as a complication of the vaccine he passed in his sleep his son said.

@britechguy i would like to see a scan of your MD diploma.
If your friend died and was OFFICIALLY listed as a death by the vaccine why does the news article from YESTERDAY not mention that? Your aljazeera link is out of date as @SAFCasper points out most countries that halted it have resumed it.
 
If your friend died and was OFFICIALLY listed as a death by the vaccine why does the news article from YESTERDAY not mention that? Your aljazeera link is out of date as @SAFCasper points out most countries that halted it have resumed it.
why is it not in the news is because it has not been very long since he died his family is still grieving why do you think Canada has stopped it is because there are reports of deaths that need investigating.

Even if there are deaths due to it because of the very low number of deaths they will continue its use it as it will save more lives than it will take.

People are going to die that is a fact the chances are very low but with close to 8 billion population that is bound to happen how many people die from eating food choking or allergies or cancer or food poisoning nothing in this world is perfect.

Even at a very tiny percentage there are still going to be deaths.
 
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why is it not in the news is because it has not been very long since he died his family is still grieving why do you think Canada has stopped it is because there are reports of deaths that need investigating.

Even if there are deaths due to it because of the very low number of deaths they will continue its use it as it will save more lives than it will take.

People are going to die that is a fact the chances are very low but with close to 8 billion population that is bound to happen how many people die from eating food choking or allergies or cancer or food poisoning nothing in this world is perfect.

Even at a very tiny percentage there are still going to be deaths.
If it’s enough to stop the process then it would be on the news. You can report a death in Ontario without mentioning names.

AS for your next three statements. Suddenly NOW you are being reasonable?
 
Just got done driving through a mass vaccination site where my wife and I got the first of the Pfizer shots. Process includes scheduling the 2nd shot in three weeks.

Process took an hour, so far all I've got to show for it is a tingling in my arm. Which is probably not the vaccine, I have... issues with needles that makes my body to stupid stuff.
 
Well 24 hours post shot and no little green men have been spotted. My arm is sore at the injection site, but considering the amount of blood that was under the bandage last night when I took a shower... I'm going to assume it's because the girl that stuck me needed more practice, and / or I moved more than I thought I did.

My wife is outside raking and gardening, she got stuck at the same time.
 
I had my first shot a week ago and had virtually no reaction. Arm was only very slightly sore if I stretched or elevated it; not sure if I had nasal congestion from it, as I get that all the time for no particular reason. I hope it doesn't imply that it's not working well, i.e., not triggering production of antibodies.

My wife gets her first shot tomorrow, so we'll see if she is the same.
 
The range of reactions I personally know of, from individuals who've taken the Jannsen/Johnson&Johnson, Pfizer-BioNTech, and Moderna vaccine protocols has ranged from absolutely nothing at one end, and suffering something akin to the flu, but of less strength and duration than is typical (for them) of flu. And the latter has been for 2 individuals, and at this point I know that I'm well into double digits (if not solidly into triple) of people in the circles of myself and my partner who have been immunized.

Certainly not a statistically significant sample, but there you have it. And there's plenty of info out there about statistically significant sample sizes.

I was one of the "no perceptible after effects at all," not even a sore arm, crowd. And we appear to be outliers at the far tail of the reactions bell curve.
 
@Larry Sabo Pfizer and Moderna dual shot systems both are characterized by almost no reaction on the first shot. It's the second one that kicks your butt. If you have that heavy reaction with the first shot, it probably means you already had COVID and therefore it's basically a 2nd shot.

The part that sucks? If you don't feel the 2nd shot... It's probably not working for you, because what you're feeling is the immune response.
 
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